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Busted big plays
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:34 pm
Has anyone charted how many big play opportunities were available and just executed poorly? I feel like there were 4-5 per game where Canada's offense resulted in the desired open receiver or busted coverage but the play failed due to a poor pass or bobbled reception. I'd love to know how different games would have been if that number would have been reduced by half. Hopeful that a second year in his offense (barring he is still here next year) would produce better execution.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:34 pm to stein_burgundy
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how many big play opportunities
3.50 per game.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:36 pm to stein_burgundy
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failed due to a poor pass or bobbled reception.
This sounds critical. I'm going to nominate you for the blacklist.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:36 pm to stein_burgundy
We did miss a lot but we also completed more 40+ yard pass plays than any LSU offense in the last 30+ years. Just think what the offense will be capable of if Brennan turns out to be legit.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:45 pm to Madking
Only because we were afraid to throw the intermediate pass and had no confidence in completing a high % of them.
The long passes are viewed as a 50/50 chance since it is normally a 1 on 1 so DE16 didn't have to read but one coverage. Kept him from throwing into double coverage most of the time. So the receiver either catches it or it is incomplete most of the time. At worst, an interception acts like a punt instead of a turnover near the LOS which can be deadly in a offensive series.
Straight out of the offensive planning room.
The long passes are viewed as a 50/50 chance since it is normally a 1 on 1 so DE16 didn't have to read but one coverage. Kept him from throwing into double coverage most of the time. So the receiver either catches it or it is incomplete most of the time. At worst, an interception acts like a punt instead of a turnover near the LOS which can be deadly in a offensive series.
Straight out of the offensive planning room.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:51 pm to LongTime Tiger
Well that’s arguable and has a lot more to it but the point I’m making is if you take the missed opputunities and add them to the record number of big plays you get the potential for an explosive offense under Canada. If he stays with Brennan pulling the trigger we could see passing numbers like we’ve never seen before at LSU. We need these big WRs to get A LOT better but Dillon looks like reliable and if we land Marshall that will be huge but if they improve watch out.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:52 pm to Madking
quote:I pray either brennan or narcisse can get it done. Im sure one of them will.
Brennan turns out to be legit.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:58 pm to burdman
No need burdman, this is a valid criticism.
If he would have used the busted big plays to prove beyond a doubt that coach O is voodoo witch doctor and can't be trusted then that would be list worthy.
Like I said, criticism is healthy. Blatant bashing ruins this place.
If he would have used the busted big plays to prove beyond a doubt that coach O is voodoo witch doctor and can't be trusted then that would be list worthy.
Like I said, criticism is healthy. Blatant bashing ruins this place.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:01 pm to stein_burgundy
As for the missed opportunities, I thought that it was our Achilles heal all year long.
CMC has a knack for dialing up the right play at the right time and we consistently missed on the opportunities.
I really hope CMC comes back cuz I think either Brennan or Narcisse will give him much more to work with and lead to some great offense.
CMC has a knack for dialing up the right play at the right time and we consistently missed on the opportunities.
I really hope CMC comes back cuz I think either Brennan or Narcisse will give him much more to work with and lead to some great offense.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:02 pm to LongTime Tiger
You are exactly right. How many times did we throw a seam route to a TE this year? How many slants were thrown? Not many deep wheel routes. But, at we least we learned how to complete a screen pass. So, there is hope for the future. Before DE got here, we couldn't complete any of those 4 routes, now looks like we have a couple of them working.
Hopefully, our next QB can continue the progress that was started last year once Miles was fired.
Hopefully, our next QB can continue the progress that was started last year once Miles was fired.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:03 pm to LongTime Tiger
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Busted big playsOnly because we were afraid to throw the intermediate pass and had no confidence in completing a high % of them. The long passes are viewed as a 50/50 chance since it is normally a 1 on 1 so DE16 didn't have to read but one coverage. Kept him from throwing into double coverage most of the time. So the receiver either catches it or it is incomplete most of the time. At worst, an interception acts like a punt instead of a turnover near the LOS which can be deadly in a offensive series. Straight out of the offensive planning room.
BE SURE YOUR MATH, STATISTICS AND NUMERICAL SOURCE OR SOURCES ARE #1 BECAUSE NOTRE DAME'S ARE!
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:10 pm to justice
We need Canada to stay too. If we have a new OC we’ll have two young inexperienced QBs learning another new system. Everything I’ve heard and read about Brennan is that he’s one of these guys who stays in the playbook and looks like as much of a sure fire pro as anyone but changing coordinators could slow or ruin his progression. Narcisse may need more time and that ok but i think Canada’s offense would max out his potential as well.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:14 pm to LongTime Tiger
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instead of a turnover near the LOS which can be deadly in a offensive series.
Turnovers have a 100% fatality rate against offensive series
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:17 pm to Madking
I agree with the optimism of a Canada offense and Brennan at the QB. I think he could be an All-SEC performer and turn us into a pass first offense that then sets up a formidable run game. And since it doesn't look like we will have a superstar RB next year we will probably need that.
Even if Canada leaves, I still think that Brennan will flourish under the right OC. I like Steve E (known him since he was in JR high) but he really doesn't want the job and I think we need a fresher play caller. More innovation, more up to date thoughts. With the little I have seen of MB, if he can get through progressions against good defenses, we should be really good on offense next year. Of course, we have to provide some protection. But even with that he seems to be able to throw on the run better than DE16 has during most of his career.
So I am looking forward to next year.
Even if Canada leaves, I still think that Brennan will flourish under the right OC. I like Steve E (known him since he was in JR high) but he really doesn't want the job and I think we need a fresher play caller. More innovation, more up to date thoughts. With the little I have seen of MB, if he can get through progressions against good defenses, we should be really good on offense next year. Of course, we have to provide some protection. But even with that he seems to be able to throw on the run better than DE16 has during most of his career.
So I am looking forward to next year.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:29 pm to stein_burgundy
A question that has plagued this team for 5 seasons now.
Dropped passes.
Wide open receivers.
List goes on.
I personally believe that Canada's motion pre snap is a game changer because it makes the defense adjust and keeps them from just loading up and playing the position. Plus, giving the same look and then adjusting to pass or run, etc. all of that people already know. Just saying, It is effective. Your question is however no different with any coordinator. Execution is key. Why I was an advocate of not firing miles. Execution/discipline has to happen.
Dropped passes.
Wide open receivers.
List goes on.
I personally believe that Canada's motion pre snap is a game changer because it makes the defense adjust and keeps them from just loading up and playing the position. Plus, giving the same look and then adjusting to pass or run, etc. all of that people already know. Just saying, It is effective. Your question is however no different with any coordinator. Execution is key. Why I was an advocate of not firing miles. Execution/discipline has to happen.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:31 pm to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
My bad. Of course it ends that series.
The staff viewed that as deadly to the game plan as we weren't strong enough to overcome them. A potential game changer for us whereas some teams can still win in spite of turnovers.
The staff viewed that as deadly to the game plan as we weren't strong enough to overcome them. A potential game changer for us whereas some teams can still win in spite of turnovers.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:39 pm to LongTime Tiger
I agree i think Ensminger did a good job last season but you’re right we need something fresh. Canada is the guy but if he leaves we need someone new, what worries me about O is that we didn’t make a clean break from the previous regime and i saw lingering offensive habits early on this year. Not that we were calling the same plays but it was the same rythm the same approach. I don’t want some flag football spread pass but we need a modernized attack whether that’s Canda or something that resembles a modern NFL offense.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:23 pm to burdman
We would have converted those plays if Jimbo was on the sidelines.
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