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Bring back RPO
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:59 am
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:59 am
I noticed we didn’t run the RPO on Saturday.
Would love to see the RPO back in the game plan.
Would love to see the RPO back in the game plan.
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:00 am to LSUTigers00884
I agree. We should give Brennan more decisions to not make.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:07 am to ProjectP2294
Thats his problem lol. From all accounts he is a pretty good decision maker in practice but he played indecisive all Saturday. The last thing we need is for him to have to make more decisions on what to do with the ball until he is comfortable. From everything coach o is say his is phenomenal at identifying pre and post snap formations, but it was still his first start. He is trying to be joe burrow but he can't.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:07 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:12 am to ProjectP2294
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I agree. We should give Brennan more decisions to not make.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:14 am to LSUTigers00884
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Would love to see the RPO back in the game plan.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:15 am to ProjectP2294
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I agree. We should give Brennan more decisions to not make.
Less.
It’s easier to read 1 guy than go through progressions.
Presnap reads can be done signalledmin on the sidelines.
99.9% of teams don’t have a QB like Joe Burrow who can make every read and perfectly go through his progressions. Modern offenses have figured out a way to deal with that.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:16 am to LSUTigers00884
The QB would also need to be a running threat to get the most out of RPOs...did u see Brennan attempt to run?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:17 am to LSUGoo
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The QB would also need to be a running threat to get the most out of RPOs
No he doesn’t.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:18 am to LSUTigers00884
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Would love to see the RPO back in the game plan.
RPO doesn't equal zone read
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:19 am to LSUTigers00884
Here are a few issues:
-No creativity in run game. Zero effort made to get our backs outside. No misdirection. Watch Ole Miss' running game to see what creative running game looks like.
-No passes to backs in flats or short hitch routes. Brennan HAS GOT to have some quick throws so he doesn't get into negative yardage situations, holding ball too long.
-Gameplan creatively...not just last years plays. Burrow was nearly flawless in RPO's because he always made the right reads and defenses never knew what to take away because he could hurt them in multiple ways. Defenses are going to pressure Brennan right up the gut and force him to make quick decisions. They will be ok with a few "shot" plays because they know he will turn ball over and give up big sacks. They also are going to have zero concern with him running.
-Get our big receivers the ball quickly and let them work. Our guys are very physical and YAC will be something we will be able to excel at if we just give them the ball.
We don't have to completely rebuild our scheme but we dang sure better be more flexible! If we would've come out run-heavy on Sat. and just forced MSU to stand up against our physicality all day, we would've been able to control the clock and take their O off the field. Our coaches on both sides of the ball were ill-prepared and MSU with Leach was a tough draw with the DB situation. Coaches should've adjusted to that knowledge but went with the "we are LSU' mentality and got scorched!
-No creativity in run game. Zero effort made to get our backs outside. No misdirection. Watch Ole Miss' running game to see what creative running game looks like.
-No passes to backs in flats or short hitch routes. Brennan HAS GOT to have some quick throws so he doesn't get into negative yardage situations, holding ball too long.
-Gameplan creatively...not just last years plays. Burrow was nearly flawless in RPO's because he always made the right reads and defenses never knew what to take away because he could hurt them in multiple ways. Defenses are going to pressure Brennan right up the gut and force him to make quick decisions. They will be ok with a few "shot" plays because they know he will turn ball over and give up big sacks. They also are going to have zero concern with him running.
-Get our big receivers the ball quickly and let them work. Our guys are very physical and YAC will be something we will be able to excel at if we just give them the ball.
We don't have to completely rebuild our scheme but we dang sure better be more flexible! If we would've come out run-heavy on Sat. and just forced MSU to stand up against our physicality all day, we would've been able to control the clock and take their O off the field. Our coaches on both sides of the ball were ill-prepared and MSU with Leach was a tough draw with the DB situation. Coaches should've adjusted to that knowledge but went with the "we are LSU' mentality and got scorched!
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 10:20 am
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:19 am to LSUGoo
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The QB would also need to be a running threa
People really don’t know the difference between a zone read and RPO?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:19 am to SammyTiger
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No he doesn’t.
Exactly. It's amazing how many don't understand the difference between RPO & pure zone read.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:21 am to LSUTigers00884
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noticed we didn’t run the RPO on Saturday.
They ran RPO. That was when he looked his best, quick read and react. Put the ball in tight windows. It was when they ran deeper pass plays, he hesitated and tried to place the ball instead of letting it fly.
RPO is to get the LBs to read Run and come up! It’s not about the QB running (it’s not a zone read). Once they bite and read run, qb pulls it and hits a quick slant, dig etc over middle.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 10:26 am
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:21 am to LSUTigers00884
RPO only works if the defense respects the QB run. MB was caught from behind easily by State's DL. MB doesn't have the escapability to make defenses respect his running ability. The pocket is where MB belongs until he's proven otherwise.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:22 am to Tigercowboy
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People really don’t know the difference between a zone read and RPO?
I would say it's a lot. I got into with my BIL last Thanksgiving while watching games after I tried to explain the difference.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:23 am to LSUGoo
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The QB would also need to be a running threat to get the most out of RPOs...did u see Brennan attempt to run
Although RPO can be extremely tough on defenses if you have a QB who might hand off, pass or take off himself, it can also be really tough with a QB who will hand off or pass depending on what the defense shows. You don't necessarily have to run to have RPO work really well. Hopefully we can use it (without Brennan being a runner much), but as some have mentioned, they need to get him to make faster decisions on basic stuff first.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:25 am to LSUTigers00884
We didnt run that much RPO last year. We only ran it 7% of the time.
RPO is just a CFB buzzword, and it's a concept that is quickly being sniffed out by defenses, and isnt as effective now as it was 3 years ago. It absolutely still has it's place, but you cant run it more than 40% of the time and still be effective.
RPO is just a CFB buzzword, and it's a concept that is quickly being sniffed out by defenses, and isnt as effective now as it was 3 years ago. It absolutely still has it's place, but you cant run it more than 40% of the time and still be effective.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 10:29 am
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:31 am to RadarTiger
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RPO is just a CFB buzzword, and it's a concept that is quickly being sniffed out by defenses, and isnt as effective now as it was 3 years ago. It absolutely still has it's place, but you cant run it more than 40% of the time and still be effective.
It’s still really effective. And you can be very creative with it because of how far downfield you can block in college.
We just had an all universe QB who could do everything and we were better off running more open passing concepts and letting him make decisions.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:40 am to LSUTigers00884
RPO doesn’t work when the QB is no running threat whatsoever.
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