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re: Brennan vs Johnson Part II: The Tape
Posted on 7/14/21 at 3:51 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/14/21 at 3:51 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I mean your IQ is even lower than I thought if you are putting even 0.000001% of the blame of a loss on a QB that goes
Sorry but if you can’t win a shootout against Missouri going +3 on TO, you ain’t had a top 5 pick kinda day lol
61%--430 yards--4 tds---0 ints
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Posted on 7/14/21 at 3:52 pm to skullhawk
quote:Why should that be factored in at all when talking about last year? I am simply saying who performed better last year, not who will ultimately be better
this is hardly a gotcha. Now factor in one has been in a college program for 4 years and the other was the third string qb until October.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 3:53 pm to Lester Earl
So what are we calling the factions? The Brennan Bros and the Johnson Riders? 
Posted on 7/14/21 at 3:54 pm to Jwho77
I dont give a shite who starts this year, Peetz will play the guy that runs his offense better
Im saying Brennan was clearly a better QB last year
Im saying Brennan was clearly a better QB last year
Posted on 7/14/21 at 3:54 pm to lsupride87
quote:
The only arguments for Johnson are
1. He can run better
2. People that use team results
Yeah there's definitely no argument in the world that not only Brennan played worse teams he also had far superior receiving options with Terrace Marshall Jr and Arik Gilbert.
True Freshman Brennan could never have pulled off what MJ did. How Max performed as a True Freshman can't be understated. Maybe Brennan comes out and shuts us up. But Max seemed to have the it factor when the season came to an end.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 3:59 pm to BayouCowboy
Brennan should be the starter but I would use Johnson a bunch as change of pace and also put both in backfield as well. The more you mix things up the better off u r against elite defenses
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:01 pm to skullhawk
“this is hardly a gotcha. Now factor in one has been in a college program for 4 years and the other was the third string qb until October.”
Following this logic Brennen would have to go back in time for them to even be compared equally.
Following this logic Brennen would have to go back in time for them to even be compared equally.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:01 pm to BayouCowboy
Great post. I think both are solid quarterbacks. I also think that Johnson improved more as a true freshman as his snaps increased than Brennan. John’s decision making time and quality improved exponentially in the few games he played. Brennan improved between MSU and Mizzu, but continued to struggle with making quick decision under pressure or when the first option was covered. Frankly , as bad as the defense played , we should have beaten Mizzu and would if Brennan had made better decisions in the second half. If they finish August in a dead heat, I would start Brennan. I would put him on a very short leash. UCLA May score 28-35 on us, but will give up 40 plus unless we shite the bed on offense. If Brennan is not efficient in the first half,
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:02 pm to Lester Earl
quote:a top-5 pick??? In what, the NFL draft???
The Missouri game is where it all came together for [Brennan], and he looked like a top-5 pick.
About 12 QBs get drafted each year. I'll eat my socks if Brennan gets drafted at all, much less a top-5 pick!!
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:02 pm to Lester Earl
You left out that he played 60% of the game with a season ending injury.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:02 pm to r0cky1
quote:
But Max seemed to have the it factor when the season came to an end
We forgot to add this one to the rant group think list. Max runs faster, Max beat Florida (even though Florida beat Florida), and he has the "it" factor.
I expect Brennan to be the best option (assuming his injury will no longer be an issue). I'm not pulling against Max Johnson in any way. Hell, it's possible Max doesn't see the field at LSU as a starter again. Nuss and Howard coming in will be difficult to hold down in the future.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:03 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
In other words, despite whatever anybody presents to show that Brennan is better, I'm going to find reasons to say Johnson is better, because that's what The Rant Group Think tells me I should do.
No
My eyes saw them team be more efficient without its two main weapons that MB had while he was playing. I like MB, but his pocket awareness was terrible and can’t run…if you disagree, ok. I’m not sure who will be the starter, I’d lean MJ, but it’s not to me, you or the rant. I do see a lot of ranters wanting MB who also dislike that Joe guy transferring in…Bc we had MB..,just sayin.
Would MJ looked better or worse had he had TM and AG on the field like MB? That’s a variable that keeps getting forgotten. Or what about 1st downs and yardage picked up with his feet? That’s a pretty big attribute (see Joe)
This post was edited on 7/14/21 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:04 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
In other words, despite whatever anybody presents to show that Brennan is better, I'm going to find reasons to say Johnson is better, because that's what The Rant Group Think tells me I should do.
Or you can look at the most important stats, Ws and third down conversions.
Max makes plays when in matters. Brennan struggles when it matters.
Brennan is a stat machine except for Ws and third down conversion. W being the most important stat and third down conversions to get to the W.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:04 pm to atltiger6487
quote:
About 12 QBs get drafted each year. I'll eat my socks if Brennan gets drafted at all, much less a top-5 pick!!
Be careful. You could find a whole shite load of people who said this exact same thing about some kid named Joe Burrow (myself included).
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:04 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
In other words, despite whatever anybody presents to show that Brennan is better, I'm going to find reasons to say Johnson is better, because that's what The Rant Group Think tells me I should do.
That's why I said "my impression". Watching games it looked like Max made small adjustments in the pocket to buy time.
I'll ask you this: Was our OL the best in CFB in 2019 or did Burrow's pocket movement turn a good unit into a great one?
I don't have a dog in this fight, in fact I have been a supporter of Brennan for some time. Like I closed with, that each have different skill sets.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:04 pm to Madking
quote:
Because Brennan was better than Johnson last year by a considerable amount. He put up better numbers against better defenses with more responsibility on his shoulders. If that idiot from Florida wouldn’t have thrown a shoe this wouldn’t even be a debate among fans. Now do we know how much Johnson’s improved, do we know if Brennan’s injuries have had long term effects? No, we don’t know those things and we don’t know who the starter is but anyone claiming Johnson played better than Brennan last season is not being objective in the least bit.
THANK YOU! It felt like I was taking crazy pills listening to people argue that Max played better than Brennan last year
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:04 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
“It factor” is another term for “I just like him better because I just do.”
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:05 pm to GumboPot
quote:The way a QB gets Ws is to get yards to then get touchdowns
Brennan is a stat machine except for Ws
You want the QB that does that the best, and you will give your best chance at a W
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:05 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I mean your IQ is even lower than I thought if you are putting even 0.000001% of the blame of a loss on a QB that goes
61%--430 yards--4 tds---0 ints
Elite QBs beat Missouri with 4 extra possessions and don’t go 0-10 on 3rd down
And 61% is lol.
QBs are completing 70% over full years bro. The hell you think this is, 1998:l.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:06 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Ok, Johnson was 55% last year
And 61% is lol.
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