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re: Breakdown of Anthony Jennings - warning: long

Posted on 9/23/14 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35787 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 4:17 pm to
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He seems to be stuck in the mode of wanting to always make the big play as opposed to making the smart play


Yep, Saturday night he threw a third down pass way down the field when his fullback was wide open only 7-8 yards down the field in front of him. He's also delayed when he wants to throw an out route.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70768 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 4:46 pm to
People need to stop making excuses for the players and the coaches. OLine play is bad, Jennings is only stuck on Dural, and if he isn't open then he runs. Its been a common pattern, yes he will get better with experience but Jennings wont get LSU anywhere close to a 9 win season with his play. Harris has so much raw talent, at this point and from other people, he seems to be the better QB, not to say he won't shite the bed against everyone else but you have to try something, and these coaches need to help the players out. Whenever fournette comes in rarely while out in the I formation, everyone locks in knowing we will run it
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15759 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 5:15 pm to
Op you did not address specifically his inability to hit his targets on intermediate throws. I doubt very seriously that Cam has not worked with him on this.

Bottom line- he is playing because CLM does not want to start a Freshmen QB

Will AJ get better? not likely- what you see is what you get- right now it is hard to justify his positives outweighing his negatives.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 9:16 pm
Posted by tandyman
natchitoches, la.
Member since Dec 2007
460 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:25 pm to
I see the same thing. This is an intangible that this post doesn't cover. I also agree with the arm strength, missing open receivers, etc. I suppose he is playing because Harris is not ready from a mental point of view. But if we are not playing for a championship, better to get Harris ready for next year. Play him now!
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85616 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:41 pm to
At his best he's a %50 passer. Just nit good enough. If you watch the games the plays in the passing game were there. If you want the d to back up a bit, he needed to throw it better and nothing I have seen so far let's me believe he can. Now as far as the loss its, not his fault. But he sure didn't help.
Posted by Meldedee
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
3419 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:09 pm to
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Agreed BUT.....He did miss wide open recievers. Also the 4th down option if he pitches the ball it's a walk in TD and maybe changes the game.



And on that 2 point conversion, Quinn was WIDE OPEN!!! WHY?? It looked like the same play we called last time we had a 2 pt. conversion ... TQ caught that one. He was wide open and no deal??? I could not believe it.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:14 pm to
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everyone anticipated either QB having growing pains, but we thought they'd be doing it with a good running game and potentially dominant OL. obviously, that's not the case, and there's defensive issues to boot.


Exactamundo! Jennings is not a bad QB. In fact he could develop into a very good QB. But he is relatively inexperienced and does not have the luxury of having a good O-Line and running game to take the pressure off. Nor does the play calling put him in the best situation.

The O-line and running game have been a disaster, throwing the full burden on a QB who has started a total of 5 games and is a true sophomore. If those two issues are not corrected, I fear it will be the same for Brandon. He will complete more passes if allowed, but he will be running for his life.

Now if Miles went to a spread and threw the ball early and often, it would give both QBs a fighting chance rather than throwing on 2nd or 3rd and long when the defense is expecting pass. Play-action passes are less potent when there is no running game. Miles must use scheme to help his young QBs, struggling o-line and running game, which he has for the most part failed to do. He insists on trying to bludgeon the defense when clearly it is not working. It is like dropping one's head, closing one's eyes and running into a wall repeatedly rather than opening the gate and walking through. Or climbing over the wall.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 8:35 pm
Posted by That One
Northern Virginia
Member since Jul 2004
6081 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:24 pm to
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bullshite.

It's amazing this board and the rest of you fans continue to tear the players apart. Then you all bitch when they commit elsewhere. Why would a player come here when it's just the fans pissed all the fricking time?


Dude, chill...nobody is "tearing him apart". He's a decent player and maybe even a better person. That aside, look at the plays he has made and look at the ones he has missed. After that, look at the overall statistics. I'll say it again...he's nothing close to being special at QB.
We need more than an average person at helm and Harris seems to be a better option from that perspective. Even though he will most likely subject us to growing pains, he has a better ceiling. That's all some of us are saying. Again...it's an honest OPINION from what I've seen so far.
Posted by TigerfFaithful
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
353 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:44 pm to
AJ is only part of the problem. His game needs a lot of work. At best he can be a good game manager. I doubt his game will rise to the level of production we saw in Mett's final season. However, I am not ready to give up on AJ by any means. In 2013, Mett already had a full season of experience under his belt, a better performing OL, and he was throwing to two NFL caliber targets. AJ has nowhere near that yet. I don't believe we should judge AJ solely by his performance against Mississippi State. The OL has not lived up to its billing, not even close to it. The OL was thoroughly dominated. Our DL looks like what it is - overrated. MLB is weak, to say the least. Let's face it. We are soft in the middle on both sides of the ball which is where it counts most in SEC play. It is only my opinion, but I think the coaches now realize the formula used in 2011 will not win 9 or 10 games with our current roster. Unfortunately this team is missing a few key pieces necessary in order to be very good.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 8:46 pm
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18292 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:10 pm to
Jennings is Marcus Randall part deux... He is not quite JJ bad but he is becoming close. He will never be even Herb Tyler good. He is a career backpack talent and not the answer.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88802 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:19 pm to
Well said. While AJ looks like Marcus Randall V2.0. It's not all on him by any means.
Posted by aaronb023
TeamBunt CEO
Member since Feb 2005
11774 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:20 pm to
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Jennings is Marcus Randall part deux... He is not quite JJ bad but he is becoming close. He will never be even Herb Tyler good. He is a career backpack talent and not the answer.


probably the most racist statement on tRant ever...congrats sir
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56111 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

What worries me about this is how will it be any different for Brandon Harris? Are we doomed to piss poor QB play with anomalies occurring only every so often?



Shot gun fixes the time to throw issue
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46045 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:29 pm to
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probably the most racist statement on tRant ever


lol not even close
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61904 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:04 pm to
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How many QB's would be successful with the playcalling


Play calling is what it is because of Jennings' shortcomings.

Jennings isn't completely at fault. And he is young so his struggles should be somewhat expected.

But he probably made 10 bad decisions during the game that he should have been capable of making.

A QB who can't get the ball out of his hand on 3rd down and 7 or 8 when the defense shows blitz pre snap is a problem.

A QB who misreads the zone read is a problem.

A QB who misreads the option on 4th down on the goal line is a problem.

A QB who passes up an easy pass to the FB for 9 yards in the red zone to instead throw into double coverage is a problem.

The bottom line is that Jennings hasn't figured it out yet. And since he hasn't yet figured it out, it makes sense to start prepping the guy with more physical talent.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70768 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:31 am to
I just want someone to play the game right, make reads, make throws, that's why you are recruited to come to LSU. I COMPLETELY agree its not Jennings fault for all this, but he is apart of the problem. Like I said people need to stop with these excuses about how he can't get the ball to his recievers. He is slow with his reads, panics and runs most the time. Quinn was open all night and rarely could get the ball to him, most times he never even scanned anyone but Dural. He is a slighty better JJ, I think Harris needs to get a shot, I feel like he has a way better arm, understands the game better, and he actually looks at more then one receiver, the kid just needs time like everyone else. Jennings has had the Arkansas game, Iowa game, Wisconsin, SHSU, ULM, and MSU. He has yet to put it together aside for SHSU and they have a shitty secondary. People need to stop sugar coating everything, I just think Jennings will take Jennings at least couple years before he could be a real QB at LSU, I just don't see that it factor and play making ability. I think with Harris its a start, I can't really say anything if Harris is the same either
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4570 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:42 am to
About Mett..

Great QB. I wonder how much of the playbook he actually grasped. He had two all star receivers to throw to but hardly ever threw to the tight ends. Maybe Mett only knew his first two reads and never knew where his check downs were.

Same can be said for Jennings except he only knows his first read.

Those last few drives for Harris, tho. I don't know if he knows where his receivers are supposed to be or if his vision is that great
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31820 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 6:01 am to
quote:

Imagine how hard it would be to get motivated on defense


How hard is it to get motivated if you are a WR not named Dural when that's the only one your QB focuses on?
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33217 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 7:05 am to
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They just gave up 570 yards--which is apparently the most IN LSU HISTORY.



To Moo fricking State! There are dumpster fires all over this team on offense and defense. We have some serious problems my friends.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 7:22 am to


You guys praised Jennings last year after driving the length of the field saving the game for LSU in the Arkansas game now he doesn't deserve to be playing?
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