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re: Billy Napier may get his way…

Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27334 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:36 pm to
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Fingers crossed TL is a bust or gets injured


People with this attitude are the worst of fanbases. Along with those who would welcome women beaters like Lawrence Philips on their team.
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
5290 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:14 pm to
It's part of the game. Multiple of his teammates will be injured this season. Don't take me out of context. I did not say I want him to suffer a career ending or otherwise gruesome injury. Just something to help his team get another top 5 draft pick. Maybe he goes fishing and loses his throwing thumbnail. Maybe he has sex with you wife and gets gonorrhea.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36575 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:20 pm to
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Iowa State's coach needs to be one of the first calls you make.


he will be. but you realize Napier beat his arse last year right? dominated physically.
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3167 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:22 pm to
Don't buy into the hype. UL-L has been scheduling Texas and Alabama type games for a big payday for over 20 years. Except for Texas A&M and Iowa St, they got the crap beat out of them almost every time.
Fast forward 20 years and nothing has changed. Its easier to go 10-1 in a Covid year and when you're schedule is loaded with North Texas and UL-M types. Coaching doesn't change that. Napier will fizzle out soon enough.
Posted by MissouriBengal23
Cape Girardeau, MO
Member since Jul 2017
89 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:23 pm to
Give me Luke Fickell
Posted by Tiger1991
Member since Nov 2008
436 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:25 pm to
Skip Holtz > Napier
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36575 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:26 pm to
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Fast forward 20 years and nothing has changed. Its easier to go 10-1 in a Covid year and when you're schedule is loaded with North Texas and UL-M types. Coaching doesn't change that. Napier will fizzle out soon enough.


dude its not like he did it for 1 year. he has built the program from the ground up on fundamentals, same way saban does.

and yea ULL wasnt around for those other games. and he was competitive with Texas until the very end.

who the hell you think we are going to be able to go get that is better and more proven
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36575 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:27 pm to
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Give me Luke Fickell


same luke fickell that went 6-6 at osu?

Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:29 pm to
Frost did the same thing at UCF
And ULL wasn't in the ground Hud had some damn good success and then the ship sunk be he proved you could win consistently. Same for all the coaches at App State.

Give me Kiffin and Pruitt as DC if it were my choice between Napier and Kiffin.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36575 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:29 pm to
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Skip Holtz > Napier



same skip holtz that has only lost less than 4 games once in 8 seasons at LT? same one that had a losing record and South Florida?

same skip holtz that since moving to D1 only has 2 seasons with less than 5 losses and only 1 with less than 4 at 3 different schools?

GTFO
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69237 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:33 pm to
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He is running a power running attack


Don't know why people are so against this.

As long as he can show a successful pass game with it, there's nothing wrong with power run.

Sure wish LSU had a power run game against Mizzou last season on the goal line.

Wish LSU had any run game at all against UCLA.


Napier runs power run because his QB is mediocre and his WR's can't catch a cold. When he had a QB, his offense looked a lot more like the balanced spread offense Tiger fans are always clamoring for.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 1:47 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36575 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:38 pm to
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Frost did the same thing at UCF


he did? news to me, maybe you should refresh your memory.

frost was given a program that George O'Leary built that went 9-4 in 2014. Frost proceeded to have a losing record his first year before having one good year.


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And ULL wasn't in the ground Hud had some damn good success


really? i seem to recall them being on probation and Hud going 4-8, 6-7 and 5-7 his last 3 seasons there. Oh wait...he did and never won more than 9 games. I also seem to remember story after story about him having to vacate wins and how he was just a rah rah guy...oh wait that is all true too.

so napier takes over a program coming off of probation and 3 straight losing seasons and goes 7-7, 11-3 and 10-1. Lets not act like he hasnt been doing unprecedented things.

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Give me Kiffin and Pruitt as DC if it were my choice between Napier and Kiffin.


so what about kiffen says he is elite? was it the two 10 win seasons at FAU? or was it the losing record his 2nd season? Was it the way he killed it at UT and USC....oh wait.

must be that stint with the raiders huh? oh wait...

kiffen is a good coach, but nothing about him says he is elite. he was a failure at the 2 schools that are top 15 programs. Has never lost more than 3 games in a season.

he is also a PR nightmare just like Ed O and also is known to chase Co-eds which LSU isnt goign to mess around with. Add in a Dc in Pruitt who is a known off the field and pr nightmare.....

quote:

Magician2

yea hiring a football coach might not be your thing bud.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36575 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:43 pm to
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Napier runs power run because his QB is mediocre and his WR's can't catch a cold.



he runs power because that is the athletes he has had at QB.

but last year they averaged 213 rushing, 208 passing averging 421 per game total.


2019 averaged 257 rushing and 237 passing, 494 total

2018 218 rushing, 205 passing. 424 total


Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17409 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:47 pm to
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frost was given a program that George O'Leary built that went 9-4 in 2014. Frost proceeded to have a losing record his first year before having one good year.

I wasn't big believer in the Frost hype at the time, but that history lesson is a little disingenuous.

O'Leary went winless his last season. Frost got them back to a bowl game the next year.
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
1477 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:49 pm to
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Lamo's has no real history of success accept under Saban.
If you get a chance a Kiffin you better take it.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19954 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:50 pm to
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Napier is one of the hottest names in the coach realm right now.


So was Tom Hermann.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36575 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:51 pm to
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O'Leary went winless his last season. Frost got them back to a bowl game the next year.



shite my bad. thought frost took over in 2015.

but Oleary had built UCF going 10-4, 12-1, 9-4 before the winless season. so not like it was a dumpster fire

also when frost took over in 2016 he had 4th most talent in AAC. in 2017 he had the most talent with only houston really close. That talent was left to him by O'Leary.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 1:53 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17409 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:53 pm to
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must be that stint with the raiders huh? oh wait...

It's been documented that Kiffin didn't want Jamarcus, and Al Davis drafted him anyway because he was the boss. Turned out Kiffin was right on that call. The Raiders were a disaster at the time anyway, no matter who the head coach was.
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he was a failure at the 2 schools that are top 15 programs.

He wasn't at Tennessee long enough to be a failure, but he improved their win total, got them bowling again, and was the last Vol coach to give Bama a game. At USC, he finished #6 in the country under NCAA sanctions and a postseason ban. Pretty much every USC fan acknowledges that Pat Haden was a jackass of an AD, too.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50764 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:54 pm to
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I may win lottery too if I buy a ticket.
Probably what O said right after he was named head coach.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17409 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:55 pm to
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so not like it was a dumpster fire

Yeah don't get me wrong, Frost built less at UCF than Herman did at Houston. His successful stint as OC at Oregon was more due to Helfrich, and the system Kelly had left behind.

His struggles at Nebraska aren't shocking to me. The other guys named in this thread are more accomplished IMO.
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