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Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:59 pm to Cigar
You guys a crazy of you think Sabam is ever coming back. Not sure if your dumb and crazy. Maybe both
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:59 pm to nvasil1
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It's been documented that Kiffin didn't want Jamarcus, and Al Davis drafted him anyway because he was the boss. Turned out Kiffin was right on that call. The Raiders were a disaster at the time anyway, no matter who the head coach was.
no doubt and i dont hold that against him. but lets not act like he was successfull using other QBs there or that Jamarcus was the only problem.
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He wasn't at Tennessee long enough to be a failure, but he improved their win total, got them bowling again, and was the last Vol coach to give Bama a game. At USC, he finished #6 in the country under NCAA sanctions and a postseason ban. Pretty much every USC fan acknowledges that Pat Haden was a jackass of an AD, too.
i actually agree on UT. but he had a good team left to him by fulmer and only improved win total by 2. his whole rep there is based off of playing a close game against saban.
he left UT as a dumpster fire they are still trying to recover from.
Pat Haden was a dumbass but Kiffen was a dumpster fire at USC. he was 8-5, 10-2, 7-6 and then started next season 3-2. he was so hated at usc that they wouldnt even let him ride back on the bus. Haden is a jackass though
at FAU he went 11-3, 5-7, 10-3
worse than billy has done at a harder spot to win.
at ole miss lane was 5-5.
again what about lane screams BIG TIME??
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:05 pm to Cigar
quote:BN would be the easiest and most seamless hire for LSU right now. The staff already knows Louisiana and recruiting the State. Can you imagine the LSU Offense under Napier?
Napier is one of the hottest names in the coach realm right now. And he is obtainable.
Now, what about Defense? Who's the UL-L DC? I haven't looked yet. LSU/SEC caliber or not? A lot of HC's are loyal to their Assistants when they take new jobs.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:06 pm to elcid
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I agree, a Hugh Freeze coached team would beat a Napier coached team every time.
2019 Napier over Freeze 35-14 so maybe not every time!!
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:06 pm to nvasil1
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Yeah don't get me wrong, Frost built less at UCF than Herman did at Houston. His successful stint as OC at Oregon was more due to Helfrich, and the system Kelly had left behind.
His struggles at Nebraska aren't shocking to me. The other guys named in this thread are more accomplished IMO.
exactly. Was never a big believer in Frost.
not a huge fan of a lot of lower teir programs. Herman...when he took over in 2015 they had more 5 stars than any other team in the AAC had 4 stars. They had almost as many 5 and 4 stars on the roster as the rest of the AAC combined
had second most amount of talent overall.
in 2016 they had by far the most talent in the AAC. he had 2 five stars and 6 four stars. by far the most talent.
Talent he didnt really recruit for the most part. and for the record he did go 32-18 at Texas and 7-3 last year. not like he was a complete failure.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:07 pm to elcid
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I agree, a Hugh Freeze coached team would beat a Napier coached team every time.
yea since last time they played that happened....oh wait.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:23 pm to lsu777
ftr ULL team talent rankings, remember coming off 3 losing seasons under hud and probation/vacated wins
2017(pre napier)- 7th in conf. 54 commits, 15 3 stars, 329pts
2018- 5th in conf. 53 commits, 2 4 stars, 18 3 stars. 376pts
2019- 4th in conf. 68 commits, 3 4 stars, 19 3 stars 406pts
2020- 2nd in conf 64 commits, 2 4 stars, 36 3 stars, 454 pts
2021- 5th in conf. 52 commits, 2 4 stars, 32 3 stars 438pts
so what do we see, outside of 2021 where it dropped a little, we see constant recruiting success and constant building of the roster methodically. For the most part winning against all the teams you out talent and winning against 50/50 or so against teams that out talent you.
that is the sign of a good coach, good program builder.
First year in conf he went 4 and 0 against team with more talent in conf. lost to app state twice and troy who both had less talent, although app state had full roster. also lost to bama and MSU.
2nd season- lost to Miss State 38-28 then to app state twice who had way more talent. 2-3 against more talented teams ( all losses). 7-0 against teams they are more talented than
3rd season- only lost to coastal carolina 30-27. 2 and 0 against teams that were more talented. 7-1 against teams they were more talented then.
Lane took over the most talented program in C-USA his first year, but he did recruit well. not saying he wouldnt be a good hire, but billy has been better at ULL than lane was and FAU.
2017(pre napier)- 7th in conf. 54 commits, 15 3 stars, 329pts
2018- 5th in conf. 53 commits, 2 4 stars, 18 3 stars. 376pts
2019- 4th in conf. 68 commits, 3 4 stars, 19 3 stars 406pts
2020- 2nd in conf 64 commits, 2 4 stars, 36 3 stars, 454 pts
2021- 5th in conf. 52 commits, 2 4 stars, 32 3 stars 438pts
so what do we see, outside of 2021 where it dropped a little, we see constant recruiting success and constant building of the roster methodically. For the most part winning against all the teams you out talent and winning against 50/50 or so against teams that out talent you.
that is the sign of a good coach, good program builder.
First year in conf he went 4 and 0 against team with more talent in conf. lost to app state twice and troy who both had less talent, although app state had full roster. also lost to bama and MSU.
2nd season- lost to Miss State 38-28 then to app state twice who had way more talent. 2-3 against more talented teams ( all losses). 7-0 against teams they are more talented than
3rd season- only lost to coastal carolina 30-27. 2 and 0 against teams that were more talented. 7-1 against teams they were more talented then.
Lane took over the most talented program in C-USA his first year, but he did recruit well. not saying he wouldnt be a good hire, but billy has been better at ULL than lane was and FAU.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:32 pm to TJG210
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Any of y’all who want Napier actually watch any of their games last year? They woefully underperformed in most
I watched a bunch of them
Underperformed according to who?
You think ULL is that much more talented than the teams they play?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:34 pm to semjase
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Now, what about Defense? Who's the UL-L DC?
His new DC is a young guy he hired last year because his old DC got hired to be DC for Aranda at Baylor
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:42 pm to allsports34
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I agree, a Hugh Freeze coached team would beat a Napier coached team every time.
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yea since last time they played that happened....oh wait.
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2019 Napier over Freeze 35-14 so maybe not every time!!
LOL. You would think people would put away their biases and do a little research before they make idiotic claims.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:48 pm to dallastiger55
Well said
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:51 pm to LaCajunsFan
UL-L ever beat an SEC team in it's history, regardless of who the coach was? I'll save you the effort of googling it.
NO
Napier is good right where he is - at a lower mid major who has success playing lower mid majors.
NO
Napier is good right where he is - at a lower mid major who has success playing lower mid majors.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:26 pm to CouldCareLess
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UL-L ever beat an SEC team in it's history, regardless of who the coach was? I'll save you the effort of googling it.
NO
Napier is good right where he is - at a lower mid major who has success playing lower mid majors
Why the frick does ull besting an sec team matter?
How dumb are you?
So are all realistic candidates out because they haven't beat an sec team.
Jesus christ some of yall would only be happy with Saban or Dabo. Hell many of you would question Day, Riley or Kirby hires.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:34 pm to lsu777
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How dumb are you?
Dumb enough to know that Napier will become a flash in the pan after another season or 2. History always repeats itself. He should hurry and go to a UCF or Kansas before its too late.
Napier is good right where he is - at a lower mid major who has success playing lower mid majors
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:43 pm to Cigar
Wait to see how Matt Campbell does at Iowa state.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:44 pm to lsu777
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so what about kiffen says he is elite? was it the two 10 win seasons at FAU? or was it the losing record his 2nd season? Was it the way he killed it at UT and USC....oh wait.
must be that stint with the raiders huh? oh wait...
kiffen is a good coach, but nothing about him says he is elite. he was a failure at the 2 schools that are top 15 programs. Has never lost more than 3 games in a season.
he is also a PR nightmare just like Ed O and also is known to chase Co-eds which LSU isnt goign to mess around with. Add in a Dc in Pruitt who is a known off the field and pr nightmare.....
Sounds like you're extremely butt hurt man.
As another poster alluded Frost took over a winless fricking program.
Kiffin took an fau profram that had 3 consecutive 3-9 seasons and turned them into a 10 win season and then an 11 win season...
He bolted Tennessee so I don't consider that a stint. USC you have an argument there.
Let's see how Kiffin does at ole miss this year compared to Napier at ULL because I'd say on paper they are about even - although I think Kiffin is one of the best offensive minds in college football.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:46 pm to CouldCareLess
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Dumb enough to know that Napier will become a flash in the pan after another season or 2. History always repeats itself. He should hurry and go to a UCF or Kansas before its too late.
Yea only consistent upward trajectory.
Dude why would he go to Kansas or ucf he has built ull to be a better gig than Kansas and is getting sec offers without having to go to ucf.
You can't argue with my posy about his recruiting snd results.
You are just using emotion.
Tell us your candidates oh wise one.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:49 pm to Prominentwon
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O is gonna get canned for Title XI
Really? Title 11? Tell us more.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:50 pm to lsu777
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Lane took over the most talented program in C-USA his first year, but he did recruit well. not saying he wouldnt be a good hire, but billy has been better at ULL than lane was and FAU.
You are flat out fricking lying.
Partridge left FAU after 3 consecutive 3-9 seasons then Kiffin took over. The most talented team that couldn't even sniff a bowl game before Kiffin. And before Partrdige was Pelini who went 6-6 and before that in Schells last year they went 1-11
Kiffin went 11-3, 5-7, 10-3
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