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Billy Cannon Johnny Robinson weights?

Posted on 9/7/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted by stevefsu83
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 2:43 pm
Cleaned up some of my dad's old plates and realized there's nothing on google about Robinson-Cannon Barbell. I figured out which Robinson and Cannon thanks to the player images and numbers, and I learned in another post here that these guys had some business dealings together in the early 60s. Apparently Cannon was one of the first high-profile athletes to promote weight lifting.

Can't find any other examples of these or any info online which is weird these days. Anyone seen these before? Know anything about them? I don't want to let my kids ruin them if they're truly unique.

Robinson-Cannon1

Robinson-Cannon2
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
5570 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Cleaned up some of my dad's old plates and realized there's nothing on google about Robinson-Cannon Barbell. I figured out which Robinson and Cannon thanks to the player images and numbers, and I learned in another post here that these guys had some business dealings together in the early 60s. Apparently Cannon was one of the first high-profile athletes to promote weight lifting.

Can't find any other examples of these or any info online which is weird these days. Anyone seen these before? Know anything about them? I don't want to let my kids ruin them if they're truly unique.

i'd say they have some value to them.
i've never seen or heard of any mention of these before. definitely unique.



Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24368 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 3:37 pm to
My older cousin was at Istrouma when Cannon was there. It was well known that they lifted. He was a big guy and lifted when a lot iof people didn't.
1960 NFL Draft
1. Cannon - LSU
2. Izo - notre Dane
3. Robinson - LSU

Round 2
16. Rabb - LSU
Posted by LayupKing
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
266 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 4:04 pm to
Alvin Roy was instrumental in their development in strength training. He was an Istrouma High graduate and convinced the football coach at Istrouma High School, Fuzzy Brown, to commit his team to strength training, which he did prior to the 1954 season, Cannon's junior year.
Roy had been the trainer for the 1952 USA Olympic weight lifting team. He was more knowledgeable about the benefits a strength training than anyone in the South. Prior to the 1958 season, Cannon, Robinson, Jimmy Taylor and Bob Pettit were all being coached by Roy at his studio on Oklahoma Street between Nicholson Drive and Highland Road a few blocks south of the Pastime. Roy Winston and Norbert Roy, two seniors at Istrouma, were also working under Alvin Roy's supervision. Taylor and Pettit were in the early stages of their professional careers. Pettit and the St. Louis Hawks won the NBA championship in 1958. Taylor and the Green Bay Packers won their first NFL title in 1961. Both give Alvin Roy credit for their increased strength and stamina to Roy for helping them become dedicated to strength training. Roy contended that Cannon, had he concentrated on weight lifting, would have been the strongest man in the world. Robinson also got started lifting weights while in high school but did not begin training under Roy until he got to LSU. The LSU athletes, Pettit, Taylor, Cannon and Robinson helped Roy get connected with several NFL teams. At the time no other team -- college or professional -- were utilizing strength training to benefit their athletes. I have a book around here somewhere that quotes Roy on his development of Cannon, and how his speed increased as his strength increased. If I can find that book, I will send that information along to you.
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18622 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Cleaned up some of my dad's old plates and realized there's nothing on google about Robinson-Cannon Barbell

Those are badass. Maybe theantiquetiger can give you some info on these.
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
5798 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 5:10 pm to
That is so bad arse. I wouldn't let the kids break them but I would def use them on a rubber mat
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Member since May 2008
994 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:18 pm to
You sound like an old time Baton Rouger!!!
Posted by GeauxGirl33
Member since Dec 2007
222 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:42 pm to
Robinson’s dad owned a sporting good store in BR, so possibly came from there. As an LSU grad and Kinesiology Major, those are great.

Email at lsutigercollector33@gmail.com if you ever want to part ways with one of them.
This post was edited on 9/9/20 at 7:26 am
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24305 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:00 pm to
Those are cool.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17848 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:48 pm to
Cannon was a freak

Consider the late 50s white athletes. Cannon was 6-1 205-210 and was faster than everyone else on the field.

A true specimen at the time.
Posted by Mr Clean
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2006
49303 posts
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:41 am to
Posted by yattan
Member since Nov 2013
897 posts
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:34 am to
In 1961 my Dad brought me into the Robinson Sports store in the shopping center next to the then Varsity Theater and purchased me a “bag” of Cannon/Robinson barbell weights. I say “bag” because you could choose the number and what size weights you needed. The store would place them in a burlap bag with a very colorful picture of Cannon and Robinson on it to carry out the store. I still have the 90 lbs of weights and still use them. The bag held on for a long time but eventually didn’t make it. I now wish I would have appreciated the bag more. In the summer of 1962 I sprained my upper leg water skying at False River. After months of bed rest I was able to move about. The 1st time I was able to ride my bike I rode about 4 miles to Istrouma high. It was very painful. My plan was to see if I could run again. The school had isometric bars next to the track. So I headed over there. The Alvin Roy show demonstrated isometrics so I knew about them. There was a man doing wind sprints on the field. He saw me limping and struggling and came over to see what was wrong. It was Billy Cannon. He talked and help me with my exercises and gave me positive feedback. Will never forget that day. That was my Billy Cannon moment.


Posted by yattan
Member since Nov 2013
897 posts
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:22 pm to
After the cobwebs have evaporated away, I remembered there was an added instruction
brochure with pictures of Cannon/Robinson showing how to correctly perform various exercises. The brochure and the carry
burlap bag may be hard to find. I think some of my lighter weights have a possum nest on top of them in one of my old Trucks.






Posted by dimet
North Carolina
Member since Feb 2009
189 posts
Posted on 9/8/20 at 3:12 pm to
Alvin Roy is a legend in strength coach lore...If you get the chance, read about his stint with the San Diego Chargers. Ron Mix has a really funny story to tell about "vitamins" that the team had to take. Sid Gillman was the head coach, another legend, and Al Davis, another legend, was an assistant.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14489 posts
Posted on 9/8/20 at 6:17 pm to
Alvin Roy: father of modern sports performance programs....and steroids in sports lol

Enjoy

Great read
Posted by olegreg
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2009
610 posts
Posted on 9/8/20 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

Cleaned up some of my dad's old plates and realized there's nothing on google about Robinson-Cannon Barbell. I figured out which Robinson and Cannon thanks to the player images and numbers, and I learned in another post here that these guys had some business dealings together in the early 60s. Apparently Cannon was one of the first high-profile athletes to promote weight lifting.


Cannon and Robinson maximized their marketability, locally. I’ve seen these before as they had a gym/training location and these were sold with their name/likeness. They also advertised for Lee Jeans, Cannon had pro model children’s football equipment, etc. Shoot me an email if you’d like to part with them.
Olegreg411@gmail.com

Photo is from a related piece that sold on eBay. (Burlap sack that the weights were sold in)
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
23487 posts
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:17 pm to
I had a set in 1960. I was 14 and used them a lot. I thought the images on the plates were cool.
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
5570 posts
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Alvin Roy was instrumental in their development in strength training. He was an Istrouma High graduate and convinced the football coach at Istrouma High School, Fuzzy Brown, to commit his team to strength training, which he did prior to the 1954 season, Cannon's junior year.
Roy had been the trainer for the 1952 USA Olympic weight lifting team. He was more knowledgeable about the benefits a strength training than anyone in the South. Prior to the 1958 season, Cannon, Robinson, Jimmy Taylor and Bob Pettit were all being coached by Roy at his studio on Oklahoma Street between Nicholson Drive and Highland Road a few blocks south of the Pastime. Roy Winston and Norbert Roy, two seniors at Istrouma, were also working under Alvin Roy's supervision. Taylor and Pettit were in the early stages of their professional careers. Pettit and the St. Louis Hawks won the NBA championship in 1958. Taylor and the Green Bay Packers won their first NFL title in 1961. Both give Alvin Roy credit for their increased strength and stamina to Roy for helping them become dedicated to strength training. Roy contended that Cannon, had he concentrated on weight lifting, would have been the strongest man in the world. Robinson also got started lifting weights while in high school but did not begin training under Roy until he got to LSU. The LSU athletes, Pettit, Taylor, Cannon and Robinson helped Roy get connected with several NFL teams. At the time no other team -- college or professional -- were utilizing strength training to benefit their athletes. I have a book around here somewhere that quotes Roy on his development of Cannon, and how his speed increased as his strength increased. If I can find that book, I will send that information along to you.
does anyone here know anything about where or when Alvin Roy retired.

i attended junior high with one of his daughters.
he moved away at some point. i'm assuming due to his employment with different NFL teams.

Alvin Roy is a legend and was well respected in the Baton Rouge area but also made a name for himself nationally.


Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2093 posts
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:22 pm to
Looks like he passed away in 1979 at an Oakland Raiders training camp. He still had a place in Baton Rouge in his off time.
Posted by Sjboilerman
Gonzales
Member since Jan 2021
6 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 6:00 pm to
How many weights do you have like that? Did you know they made a sack with themselves on it too. They made 300 sacks to promote the sales. If you like you can call me. 225 461 9155 Thanks, Vincent
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