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LayupKing
| Favorite team: | LSU |
| Location: | Baton Rouge |
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| Interests: | Reading, writing, stocks, spectator sports, photography |
| Occupation: | Retired |
| Number of Posts: | 266 |
| Registered on: | 2/25/2011 |
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re: Any legit recruits ever come from 6 man football?
Posted by LayupKing on 3/18/21 at 12:12 pm to Steel_Tiger
Kenny Konz, LSU & Cleveland Browns
Returned a punt 92-yards for a TD in the opening minutes of the game, and intercepted three passes against SEC champion Tulane in 1949.
Returned a punt 92-yards for a TD in the opening minutes of the game, and intercepted three passes against SEC champion Tulane in 1949.
re: Anyone remember “Big Red” at LSU football games?
Posted by LayupKing on 3/3/21 at 8:16 am to TexasTiger89
I remember his pre-game chant at the 1963 Cotton Bowl with Texas:
RATTLE THE CATTLE ... RATTLE THE CATTLE... RATTLE THE CATTLE.
Texas fans could not believe it.
RATTLE THE CATTLE ... RATTLE THE CATTLE... RATTLE THE CATTLE.
Texas fans could not believe it.
Early Enrollees
Posted by LayupKing on 1/30/21 at 6:10 pm
Could someone provide a list of early enrollees for LSU football?
re: LSU Baseball 2021 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread - OLD THREAD
Posted by LayupKing on 1/26/21 at 3:01 pm to ProjectP2294
Project,
Who do you like as LSU's DH this year ...
Who do you like as LSU's DH this year ...
re: One of the original “Chinese Bandits” has left us
Posted by LayupKing on 1/18/21 at 9:09 pm to LSUtoOmaha
The Bandits were defensive specialists and usually did not play both ways.
Jim Lavin was a great person. However, the Chinese Bandits were born in 1958 as part of Dietzel's three-team system --the White team which played both ways, the Go team which specialized on offense and the Chinese Bandits, which specialized on defense. In Lavin's years 1956 and 1957 he did play both ways. In 1956 he was the only LSU player big enough to go against the great Earl Leggett, the Tigers' star tackle who had an outstanding professional career after his final campaign under Dietzel in 1956.
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Jim Lavin was a great person. However, the Chinese Bandits were born in 1958 as part of Dietzel's three-team system --the White team which played both ways, the Go team which specialized on offense and the Chinese Bandits, which specialized on defense. In Lavin's years 1956 and 1957 he did play both ways. In 1956 he was the only LSU player big enough to go against the great Earl Leggett, the Tigers' star tackle who had an outstanding professional career after his final campaign under Dietzel in 1956.
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I like Gaines, Cook and Wilkinson. They will all get better with work and minutes. Hope to see some improvement in LeBlanc. NBA likes their shooting guards 6-5 or better. Cam will have to play better D and be willing to pass the ball inside to be a big hit at the pro level.
re: Is this the 1st time a Louisiana school
Posted by LayupKing on 10/15/20 at 9:17 am to Hiphopanonymous
Tulane 1948
Alvin Roy was instrumental in their development in strength training. He was an Istrouma High graduate and convinced the football coach at Istrouma High School, Fuzzy Brown, to commit his team to strength training, which he did prior to the 1954 season, Cannon's junior year.
Roy had been the trainer for the 1952 USA Olympic weight lifting team. He was more knowledgeable about the benefits a strength training than anyone in the South. Prior to the 1958 season, Cannon, Robinson, Jimmy Taylor and Bob Pettit were all being coached by Roy at his studio on Oklahoma Street between Nicholson Drive and Highland Road a few blocks south of the Pastime. Roy Winston and Norbert Roy, two seniors at Istrouma, were also working under Alvin Roy's supervision. Taylor and Pettit were in the early stages of their professional careers. Pettit and the St. Louis Hawks won the NBA championship in 1958. Taylor and the Green Bay Packers won their first NFL title in 1961. Both give Alvin Roy credit for their increased strength and stamina to Roy for helping them become dedicated to strength training. Roy contended that Cannon, had he concentrated on weight lifting, would have been the strongest man in the world. Robinson also got started lifting weights while in high school but did not begin training under Roy until he got to LSU. The LSU athletes, Pettit, Taylor, Cannon and Robinson helped Roy get connected with several NFL teams. At the time no other team -- college or professional -- were utilizing strength training to benefit their athletes. I have a book around here somewhere that quotes Roy on his development of Cannon, and how his speed increased as his strength increased. If I can find that book, I will send that information along to you.
Roy had been the trainer for the 1952 USA Olympic weight lifting team. He was more knowledgeable about the benefits a strength training than anyone in the South. Prior to the 1958 season, Cannon, Robinson, Jimmy Taylor and Bob Pettit were all being coached by Roy at his studio on Oklahoma Street between Nicholson Drive and Highland Road a few blocks south of the Pastime. Roy Winston and Norbert Roy, two seniors at Istrouma, were also working under Alvin Roy's supervision. Taylor and Pettit were in the early stages of their professional careers. Pettit and the St. Louis Hawks won the NBA championship in 1958. Taylor and the Green Bay Packers won their first NFL title in 1961. Both give Alvin Roy credit for their increased strength and stamina to Roy for helping them become dedicated to strength training. Roy contended that Cannon, had he concentrated on weight lifting, would have been the strongest man in the world. Robinson also got started lifting weights while in high school but did not begin training under Roy until he got to LSU. The LSU athletes, Pettit, Taylor, Cannon and Robinson helped Roy get connected with several NFL teams. At the time no other team -- college or professional -- were utilizing strength training to benefit their athletes. I have a book around here somewhere that quotes Roy on his development of Cannon, and how his speed increased as his strength increased. If I can find that book, I will send that information along to you.
re: Bryan Penn Johnson commits to LSU basketball
Posted by LayupKing on 7/19/20 at 7:25 am to Salamander_Wilson
Tuba is coming back to work with him. Teaching him to play the horn when he fouls out.
How do you play a horn wearing a mask?
Bigby-Williams was easily our best rim defender that season. But he had some pretty good help rebounding and defending in the paint -- Naz Reid (6-10, 250). Emmitt Williams (6-6, 225) only averaged 19 MPG, I believe, but he was one of the national leaders in offensive rebounds per game. Darius Days (6-6, 225) was not too shabby in the paint. I hope all of our current inside players can equal the rebounding production of Reid and Bigby-Williams. Reid and Williams were two pretty good inside players when Bigby-Williams was not in the game. Without seeing LeBlanc and O'Neal play, i find it difficult to imagine how they measure up to Rigby-Williams, Reid and Williams.
re: Culotta pointing the finger at daddy Dale as Vitale’s source
Posted by LayupKing on 7/10/20 at 5:53 am to Ponchy Tiger
The King is dead!
Long live the King!
Long live the King!
Greg was asking $5,000 for the ring. It was in great shape. That was a good price, I thought at the time, because of the fact that fewer rings were produced. The smaller squad, smaller coaching staff, support staff and athletic department of that period. There were probably only about 85 rings produced. There were only about 50 players on the team. Only 36 lettermen.
I have one. I was a member of the athletic department staff. Dietzel designed the ring.
I have one. I was a member of the athletic department staff. Dietzel designed the ring.
Bear Bryant was the first coach that I remember using that expression.
The media kept trying to get him to commit to his area of emphasis ... offense or defense.
He said, "I don't coach the offense. I don't coach the defense. It's my job to get 'em to beat with one heart beat."
The media kept trying to get him to commit to his area of emphasis ... offense or defense.
He said, "I don't coach the offense. I don't coach the defense. It's my job to get 'em to beat with one heart beat."
re: Cisse committing today per Culotta
Posted by LayupKing on 6/4/20 at 9:21 am to Yippie_Ky_yae
I thought Naismith invented basketball. Not Dick!
re: LSU - The National Champions of 1908
Posted by LayupKing on 6/3/20 at 5:47 am to MrWalkingMan
Doc Fenton's recruitment is a good story. It was between LSU and Mississippi State.
Starkville was dry. Baton Rouge had nickel beer. No contest!
Starkville was dry. Baton Rouge had nickel beer. No contest!
Robinson was not a starter as a sophomore in 1957.
Red Brodnax was the starting RHB in '57. He was converted to FB in the spring of 1958.
He was LSU's leading rusher in 1956 as a sophomore, and the team's MVP and the SEC's best blocker in 1958. Also won a national award for Sportsmanship in 1958.
I read about the 1958 team in a book called the Perfect Season.
Red Brodnax was the starting RHB in '57. He was converted to FB in the spring of 1958.
He was LSU's leading rusher in 1956 as a sophomore, and the team's MVP and the SEC's best blocker in 1958. Also won a national award for Sportsmanship in 1958.
I read about the 1958 team in a book called the Perfect Season.
I saw Y.A. Tittle play as a freshman tailback against Tulane in Tiger Stadium. He was 14-18 that day, his best passing percentage as Tiger. LSU won 25-6, finishing 2-5 on the season. LSU went to the T formation the next season and had a 7-2 record, and set a school record for average yard for rush. Ray Coates (Jesuit High) and Dan Sandifer (Byrd High) were the starting halfbacks. Red Knight (Bossier High) was the fullback. End Clyde Linsdey was the MVP. They were 9-1 in 1946 and went to the Cotton Bowl. Injuries crippled the Tigers in 1947, Tittle's senior year. Ole Miss won the SEC in Vaught's first season, beating LSU 20-18 in Tiger Stadium. Charley Connerly passing to Barney Poole was an unstoppable combination for the Rebels. Tittle intercepted a Connerly pass and had his "Joe Burrow moment". He had blockers in front of him about the OM 35 when a Reb player tried to tackle Y.A and broke the belt to his pants. As his pants slipped down, Tittle held the ball with one hand and his pants with the other. Ole Miss caught him. The Rebels held and won the game and the SEC title. I was a boy scout and ushered at the game. I was 12 years old at the time.
In the game I saw in Lubbock, a 19-13 LSU win, Jimmy Taylor was not a major factor in the outcome. All three Tiger TDs were scored by sophomores -- two by Cannon and one by Johnny Robinson on a pass reception shortly before the first half ended.
However, Taylor came on strong later in the season. He was an All-American. Both Taylor and Cannon gained more yards rushing that year than the Heisman Trophy winner, John David Crow, a 210-pound running back from Springhill, La. He had been "recruited" off the LSU campus by Bear Bryant and Texas A&M. LSU fans of that period always talked about the three running backs the Tigers might of had, Taylor, Crow and Cannon. But 1958 started the Tigers rolling and Cannon had a lot to do with that. But nothing could top the offensive fireworks of this season and Joe Burrow's great passing and timely gains running the ball. I wish we could start the season next week.
However, Taylor came on strong later in the season. He was an All-American. Both Taylor and Cannon gained more yards rushing that year than the Heisman Trophy winner, John David Crow, a 210-pound running back from Springhill, La. He had been "recruited" off the LSU campus by Bear Bryant and Texas A&M. LSU fans of that period always talked about the three running backs the Tigers might of had, Taylor, Crow and Cannon. But 1958 started the Tigers rolling and Cannon had a lot to do with that. But nothing could top the offensive fireworks of this season and Joe Burrow's great passing and timely gains running the ball. I wish we could start the season next week.
re: I saw Billy Cannon and Joe Burrow play
Posted by LayupKing on 1/29/20 at 2:04 pm to Eauxld Geauxld
I saw Billy Cannon score two touchdowns against Texas Tech in Lubbock in 1957 -- an athletic 59-yard pass reception and run, which included his hurdling the defensive back on the play, and a 97-yard kickoff return up the middle of the field. Not many LSU fans made it to Lubbock that night. I was fortunate to see all of his games in Tiger Stadium and Tulane Stadium in 1958 and 1959. I saw Joe Burrow play in Tiger Stadium, too. But the great thing about the Burrow years were the away games on TV -- especially Georgia, Oklahoma and Clemson to end the season. Other than the Lubbock game, the only away games I saw Cannon play in person were the Tulane game and the two Sugar Bowls against Clemson and Ole Miss. The only televised games of the Cannon era were the Clemson Sugar Bowl, LSU-Rice in the 1959 opener and the Ole Miss Sugar Bowl, which closed out the 1959 season. But I saw those live. Cannon played both ways and was a good blocker, tackler, passer. receiver, punter and place kicker. He had speed and power, but his speed was not utilized enough as a receiver. LSU only threw deep to him twice in 1958 and one resulted in a 63-yard scoring pass against Duke. No deep passes that I recall in 1959. However, I do think Joe Burrow could have played both offense and defense if the rules dictated it. He was a tough runner and took a lot of punishment after he passed the ball. Both were decisive winners of the Heisman. I have to say that I enjoyed the offensive game of 2019 much more than the 1958-59 offense.
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