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re: Biggest two takeaways from last night

Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:01 am to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:01 am to
Don’t start blaming the umps…. Only loser fans do that….. how about IF LSU hit the ball better???????
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5549 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:04 am to
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Kid pitching today is a young stud. If he’s on, we are losing. But he has had some bad outings.

If it’s a bad outing, Tigers roll


Really going out on a limb there.
Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
12141 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:05 am to
LSU out hit the Vols 8-6. The fact that our guys were getting rung up on questionable strikes while getting ZERO walks should be a red flag.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:06 am to
Shut up. That’s a scoreless inning if he calls the third strike for the second out. And then we’re set up for Fontenot. That completely changed the game.

The ump changed the game. Vitellio intimidated him all night and they got the calls and we didn’t.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Wadey
Member since Sep 2020
2054 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:11 am to
This
Posted by Gawnfishin
Pville
Member since May 2018
36 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:14 am to
Not saying the Tenn coach intimidated the ump, but there were some late strike calls. Kinda like he was waiting for some sort of “outside” reaction
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
45863 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:35 am to
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TENN is 4-0 against the Tigers.... Time to just tip your cap.



Not so fast my friend... UT can be 4-2 against LSU and we are the winners. :)
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 11:28 am
Posted by B00M
Member since Aug 2020
541 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:38 am to
Just enjoy the ride and see that the new guy does. They are not a top 10 team unfortunately so there should be no expectation of them moving on how much we would like to see it. If they did it is just a bonus to the season like winning the regional.

The one thing you should note is the youth on this team and the talent the new coach will have to work with and develop.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:39 am to
Then why didn’t they swing the bat????? That’s the problem with this team… they leave it up to the umpire….
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
935 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:43 am to
Tennessee plays w 9 players, LSU has 7 players, at best. Our pitchers are good enough to win in the SEC.

If Beloso is our best hitter off the bench, we're in deep shite, he rarely makes contact w the ball, if they knew how to bunt, they could try that, but that's another story. Thompson is a mediocre shortstop, at best, and a below average hitter, they should never see the field.
Bianco is the only true baserunner on the team, lead him off.
How many low sliders/curves do they have to swing at before they move up in the box.

Paul is responsible for ALL of that
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296201 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:44 am to
Pulling Hilliard didn't matter. When you can't score but 2 runs, your chances of winning are tiny. We were fortunate to get those two.
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
8047 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:55 am to
The ump was definitely influenced by both the crowd and Vitello. He'd wait a second and once the crowd reacted heavily he'd ring up LSU batters. And I've honestly never seen a pitcher get squeezed like Coleman was. He started the inning really well actually and then he couldn't find the umps zone. Wasn't getting the call at the knees, so he located one at the belt, and didn't get that either. Hit the edge of the zone several times that were called balls, meanwhile the cheese wiz was locating pitches in the opposite batters box and getting the call. It was bad. The added pressure by the horrible zone caused the team to crumble in the inning. More base runners in scoring position, one out, it's what caused the stupid mistake by Doughty. He was hoping to get the easy tag on the runner from second and a throw to first double play. Instead he looked stupid and didn't even get an out which allowed two more runs to score. Also, the first run that scored was the walked batter that should've been punched out. Both the 2-2 pitch that swung inside out on the batter hit the outside of the plate thigh high, and the 3-2 pitch was a perfectly placed and framed fastball right above the knee. Hit the glove square and the ump called it a ball. You can say don't blame the umps because that's what losers do, but we wouldn't have to do that if the strike zone didn't change batter to batter, and half inning by half inning. The Tennessee pitcher got the "cheese" while Coleman got the squeeze.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31861 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:58 am to
This is it in a nutshell. Too many automatic outs, and when the top of the lineup is waving and missing, it’s going to be ugly. Didn’t help that the Ump was giving Wild Thing a called strike on any ball the catcher was able to catch. Horrible Horrible strike zone
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3516 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:59 am to
I'm not blaming the home plate ump, but if Tennessee's pitcher wasn't getting every call at the bottom of the zone and a ball off the plate to right handed hitters. Tre Morgan's strike out at his second at bat was just a horrible call below his knees and pretty much set the tone for the rest of his night!!! We needed his bat or Crews's to have success and that wasn't happening with the widened strike zone combined with the already great command of Dallas. I guess good pitchers just get the calls!

LSU had a few favorable calls, but Coleman was getting squeezed in the 6th (those walks hurt!), and still put up fairly good numbers.

LSU made the mistakes to lose the game, so it's definitely not entirely the umps fault, but it also didn't help that Coleman walked 3 in the 6th with a few pitches located where Dallas would've been given the strike.

I know LSU struggled at the plate and that is the reason they lost, but Dallas is hard enough to hit, but combine that with a widened zone and LSU's best hitters looked confused. As hot as Crews has been and with Morgan's consistency making contact, it just seemed like a night where the field was tilted in Tennessee's favor.

That tight cutter Dallas throws is gonna make him a lot of money!!!
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65190 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:01 am to
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LSU out hit the Vols 8-6. The fact that our guys were getting rung up on questionable strikes while getting ZERO walks should be a red flag.


Our guys were hacking from pitch 1 to start the game. I don’t blame the umps because they couldn’t lay off the low outside pitches
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
3161 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:01 am to
Dallas did the same thing all night and we just never adjusted. He threw breaking balls away to righties and in to Morgan. He stayed down in the zone pretty well too
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3516 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:03 am to
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How many low sliders/curves do they have to swing at before they move up in the box.


GREAT point. That cutter would break right under the bat SO many times, you'd think there would be a coach telling them to move up in the box if they can't pick it up out of his hand. It seemed like they were just waiting on it to break and then they'd be behind it and foul it off or above it and strike out. It also didn't help that Dallas was getting all of the calls slightly below the strike zone.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41765 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:06 am to
They gave us a run and we gave them two.
Coleman was punished worse than he should have been with the mistake and the ump behind the plate.
Our best hitter had a terrible day as did several others who have been coming up big. At the end no one held the rope and got that big hit when we needed it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41765 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:08 am to
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Our guys were hacking from pitch 1 to start the game. I don’t blame the umps because they couldn’t lay off the low outside pitches


The problem was the ump calling low OUTSIDE pitches strikes so we had to swing.
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