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re: Bianco has a better resume than CEO did prior to being hired
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:11 pm to BrerTiger
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:11 pm to BrerTiger
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I like Bianco and I like O. But let's not pretend they were anyone's first choice. Agree that Bianco has a much better resume but that's not a very high bar relative to O's resume as a head coach prior to LSU hiring him
Well Ole Miss has always been a Football Coaches graveyard.
In Bianco's case Ole Miss was never much of a Baseball Program until Bianco arrived.
Fans complained about Orgeron's Ole Miss record but at LSU Coach O is 45-14 with an SEC Title and a National Championship.
You simply cannot compare Ole Miss potential vs LSU potential. I think Bianco would be better at LSU than he has been able to do at Ole Miss. The potential of the programs are just vastly different. It is Apples vs Horse Turds.
All that being said, I prefer Godwin.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:19 pm to redneck
LSU is a good representation of everything wrong with Louisiana right now. It's ran exactly like the politics. So much potential ripped and pulled down by people you know not what your qualifications are. Plenty of potential that never is met or gets better because you keep buddies in power. Nothing but greed and corruption so a Bianco hire makes sense in that regard to me. O was another hire of who you know not what he was actually qualified for.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:22 pm to rob62
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You simply cannot compare Ole Miss potential vs LSU potential. I think Bianco would be better at LSU than he has been able to do at Ole Miss. The potential of the programs are just vastly different. It is Apples vs Horse Turds.
What do you think the differences between the LSU and Ole Miss programs has been since 2001? What is Ole Miss lacking that teams like Fresno State and Coastal Carolina, or even Tulane, had? What common factors does Ole Miss have with teams like Kent State, Missouri State, Indians, or Stony Brook?
You folks act like Ole Miss is some hell hole. Bianco built it to a fine program, and because of that there is nothing holding them back from success, yet they haven’t achieved it.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:25 pm to SammyTiger
quote:4 in 16 years is better than 1 in 21
Between 1956 and 1972.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:28 pm to rob62
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Well based on how wrong you were about Coach Orgeron we should go with Bianco.
Yeah, I'm not conceding the Orgeron point at all. Lightning in a bottle happens sometimes.
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If we should take the advice of a Tennessee fan at all based on the history of the Coaching hires in Knoxville.
U Dumb
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:45 pm to redneck
CEO didnt come to lsu straight from ole miss. He had just kicked arse as the interim coach at usc .he didnt get the job because he doesn't fit in ,that's what they said pretty much,then he came to lsu ,worked under miles ,for a couple years or so, and then miles gets fired .then hes interim again and he kicked arse again.
Point being,he wasnt coming straight from ole miss to here,he worked hard and impressed enough after ole miss to get his shot here.
Situations arent the same.
Point being,he wasnt coming straight from ole miss to here,he worked hard and impressed enough after ole miss to get his shot here.
Situations arent the same.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:07 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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You folks act like Ole Miss is some hell hole. Bianco built it to a fine program, and because of that there is nothing holding them back from success, yet they haven’t achieved it.
Ole Miss is the only original team in the SEC West which has never been to Atlanta. Even Arkansas and State have won the Division and played for the SEC Championship.
Ole Miss last won the SEC Football Title in 1963. They were driving Studebakers and Packards in 1963.
Ole Miss has won exactly 1 SEC Title in Baseball under Bianco and yes he has built a good Baseball Program. In Basketball I don't remember Ole Miss ever winning the SEC. If Ole Miss is nothing holding them back then why is it that every sport is suffering from a lack of Championships?
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:16 pm to redneck
Bianco has had 20+ years and made it to Omaha 1 time. How is that ok.
And nobody big wanted the LSU job so we got CEO. Unless Godwin, McDonnell, O’Sullivan and everyone else turned the job down, it’s not comparable.
And nobody big wanted the LSU job so we got CEO. Unless Godwin, McDonnell, O’Sullivan and everyone else turned the job down, it’s not comparable.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:16 pm to ProjectP2294
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Yeah, I'm not conceding the Orgeron point at all. Lightning in a bottle happens sometimes.
An overall 45-14 record at LSU with an a #6 finish in 2018 with a Fiesta Bowl win. An SEC Championship in 2019. A 15-0 season in 2019. A National Title in 2019. All done with a Coaching Staff he assembled and a QB he went looking for and recruited who ended up winning the damn Heisman Trophy. And recruiting at a Top 5 level on a sustained basis.
All this says you can stick Lightning in a Bottle up your behind.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:35 pm to rob62
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You simply cannot compare Ole Miss potential vs LSU potential. I think Bianco would be better at LSU than he has been able to do at Ole Miss. The potential of the programs are just vastly different. It is Apples vs Horse Turds
This is a homer sentiment.
What O has to work with at LSU is light and day different than what he had to work with at Ole Miss in 2007.
What Bianco has to work with at LSU isn't that much better than what Ole Miss has.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 2:43 am to rob62
Rob are you still trying to act like he hired Aranda and Ensminger?
Posted on 6/20/21 at 3:09 am to redneck
Yeah, well youre comparing apples to oranges. Ed coaches football, where ole miss is consistently in the bottom tier of their own division, and Bianco coaches baseball, where ole miss is consistently in the top half of their division. Ole miss baseball is much more prepared to compete than their football program ever has been or will ever be.
Bianco has had everything he's needed to be successful at ole miss far greater than he has achieved. Ed didn't have that with ole miss football, where they were and still are behind in a big way in almost every metric to the big boys in the sec west.
Bianco has had everything he's needed to be successful at ole miss far greater than he has achieved. Ed didn't have that with ole miss football, where they were and still are behind in a big way in almost every metric to the big boys in the sec west.
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 3:13 am
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:19 am to redneck
We wouldn’t have hired O straight from Ole Miss even if he’d done OK. He had two successful interim stints at national-championship-winning programs afterward.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:20 am to ImayGoLesMiles
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ImayGoLesMiles
Meant to upvote
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:24 am to SammyTiger
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I don't know how good Air Force was, but I don't expect them to ever make the postseason.
They were one of the best teams in their conference this year. They could have easily made it. They had a better RPI than multiple at-large teams.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:36 am to dru5
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Orgeron was objectively a terrible hire at the time based on a farcical "search" conducted by an incompetent AD. CEO has proved a lot of people wrong but still has to show that he can sustain success at the highest level.
We thought we got rid of the incompetent AD, but if Woody caves to the pressure of dinosaurs and hires Bianco, he will prove himself not much better than Alleva.
Agree with the second paragraph, but it’s not “objectively terrible” to stick with a guy who brought huge improvements with what was left of a failure’s staff at not one but two of the top programs. The Ole Miss O was obviously long gone. It wasn’t the best hire possible on paper, but it was a step in the right direction.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 6:45 am to redneck
quote:FIFY
CEO IS the worst coach in Ole Miss history.
He hired great once. Fell back to mediocrity when he had to do it himself. The only success Bianco had was when Godwin was on his staff. Ironically, it was Godwin that set in motion 2009 for CPM. We all remember the 2008 run and how they mashed.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 6:47 am to redneck
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Those of you that were pro CEO but anti Bianco are about as hypocritical as it gets
Retardation.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 6:48 am to SidewalkTiger
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What O has to work with at LSU is light and day different than what he had to work with at Ole Miss in 2007.
What Bianco has to work with at LSU isn't that much better than what Ole Miss has.
Facts
Ole Miss is one of the elite programs as far as spending on baseball goes. They are not an elite program in results.
I will support whoever is hired though, even Bianco.
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