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re: Bianco has a better resume than CEO did prior to being hired

Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:51 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:51 am to
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I don't know how good Air Force was, but I don't expect them to ever make the postseason.


It’s college baseball
They don’t have to worry about scholarships and their kids stay 4 years. Honestly, I think A good Baseball coach should be able to sell AF. It’s an insanely good education. You don’t have to get shot at in the AF and their graduates makes insane money when they leave the service. If they really get drafted the academies will even sometimes waive their service requirements.

Army just made the post season.

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Ole Miss has been a solid SEC baseball program for a long time now. Ole Miss had the #1 or #2 overall class just three years ago. Ole Miss while established as a legit SEC baseball program should get to Omaha more than 1 time in 21 years.



Thank you can’t use his own success as an argument against Bianco.

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Miss St has been to Omaha like 3xs in the past 3 or 4 years?



So in a sport with limited scholarships where getting kids to come on their own dime is important Ole Miss is the second school in their own state and have been for 40+ years?

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Ole Miss is a very good program, but Bianco is a not a good postseason coach. He often is losing to lesser talented teams. His teams play not to lose rather than playing to win.


This I think is THE legitimate complaint. I wont Argue with you because I agree that this is why Bianco is just a meh hire.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 11:53 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:51 am to
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Miss St has been to Omaha like 3xs in the past 3 or 4 years?
This is their third year in a row.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:53 am to
If Bianco had stepped in as an interim, led the team to look better and was able to be hired for peanuts with a very short leash....well, then, and only then would your comparison make sense.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86778 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:53 am to
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Thank you can’t use his own success as an argument against Bianco.
Success is relative. Success at ECU looks different than success at LSU. Success in getting Ole Miss to the post season in the early 2000s is different than going 7-10 in regionals and 1-6 in super regionals over a 21 year span when you spend more than all but 3 programs and your recruit consistently in the top 10.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76036 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:04 pm to
Again, I won’t argue with you that Bianco’s postseason record is the issue with him as a hire.

Idk how he’s comparable to McDonnell.
Honestly, idk why O’Connor’s name isn’t anywhere. Just made it back to the post season.

Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25482 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:08 pm to
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What did Ole Miss do before Bianco?


They had made four previous trips to the CWS.

Notre Dame had only made 1.

Don’t ignore what happened to the ND baseball program after Mainieri left.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76036 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:11 pm to
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They had made four previous trips to the CWS.



Between 1956 and 1972.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:13 pm to
Miss State is a better program than Ole Miss.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25482 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:33 pm to
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Between 1956 and 1972.


Yes, showing that it is possible to get Ole Miss to the CWS more than once in twenty years.

And that’s a time when they no doubt had fewer resources and far less fan support.

Now you have a rabid fanbase and all sorts of TV/football money getting pumped into baseball around the conference.

I do find it funny that you hold Mainieri’s Air Force record against him considering that’s a program that hasn’t been to the postseason since 1969, but give Bianco a pass for his 20 years of nigh abject failure.

Again, what has Notre Dame done since Paul left?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76036 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:41 pm to
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Yes, showing that it is possible to get Ole Miss to the CWS more than once in twenty years.


Maybe if the field was still 20 teams like in the 70s.
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
3276 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:58 pm to
Relevance??
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25482 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Maybe if the field was still 20 teams like in the 70s.



What has Ole Miss lacked the last two decades that prevented them from making it to Omaha in all but one season?

They’ve hosted a Regional or a Super in 10 of those seasons, leading to ONE CWS appearance (which they got to by winning at ULL). They’ve never won a Super at home, and have gone 0-2 twice in home Regionals. Missed the tourney 3 times.

Compare that to Mainieri coached teams, which have hosted twelve Regionals or Supers in that same span, leading to 6 CWS appearances (includes 2001-2006 ND to cover same time span). LSU never went 0-2 as a host under him; ND did so once on the road, and missed the tourney twice.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76036 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:38 pm to
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What has Ole Miss lacked the last two decades that prevented them from making it to Omaha in all but one season?



Probably the same thing they lacked in the 30 years they didn’t make a CWS
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43976 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:45 pm to
The LSU mentality is why we continue to reek inconsistency.
Posted by B00M
Member since Aug 2020
519 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:46 pm to
Work from those who know is he does not have a binder. So no, let's move on.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9830 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:46 pm to
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Probably the same thing they lacked in the 30 years they didn’t make a CWS


a coach capable of doing it more than once?
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25482 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:47 pm to
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Probably the same thing they lacked in the 30 years they didn’t make a CWS


They’ve lacked nothing to prevent them from making it to Omaha.

But on the bright side, since 2016, Boston College and Tennessee Tech combined have won the same amount of Oxford Regionals as Ole Miss has.

Edit to add: got the Tulane part wrong, but they were the team to eliminate Ole Miss in 2016, BC won that Regional.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47454 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:55 pm to
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Bianco has a better resume than CEO did prior to being hired

So does Lester Earl.
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:58 pm to
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I was anti-O and I'm anti-Bianco.


Well based on how wrong you were about Coach Orgeron we should go with Bianco.

If we should take the advice of a Tennessee fan at all based on the history of the Coaching hires in Knoxville.

Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21627 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:58 pm to
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Those of you that were pro CEO but anti Bianco are about as hypocritical as it gets.


So you're saying LSU was settling then and will be settling now.

I like Bianco and I like O. But let's not pretend they were anyone's first choice. Agree that Bianco has a much better resume but that's not a very high bar relative to O's resume as a head coach prior to LSU hiring him.
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