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re: Best NBA comparison for Simmons: Antetokounmpo?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 11:54 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 3/16/16 at 11:54 pm to Lester Earl
Ben looks more natural with the ball and has a lot of more polish than Giannis.
Giannis is so raw, I don't think anyone really knows what he is yet. He's been a revelation with his new role, a role Ben should be able to perform in the NBA.
Giannis is so raw, I don't think anyone really knows what he is yet. He's been a revelation with his new role, a role Ben should be able to perform in the NBA.
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 11:55 pm to BornKjun
Josh Smith with better passing ability. Think about it. Neither can shoot but both can get to the goal and rebound. Can also play PF and attempt to post up. Josh Smith just thinks he can shoot so he does for some reason.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 5:59 am to ipodking
Damnnnnnnnn! Ben will be Ben. The Greek freak is Explosive as heck. Ben gotta get that Dawg in him.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:21 am to PaulT78
with his game and ability he could develop into another Cody Zeller. Tall fluid athletic player who is a good passer. Simmons isn't quite as aggressive as Zeller but is probably already a better passer.
Zeller, coming out of college, was noted for being "an incrediably agile and fluid big man who runs the floor well and has the ability to play above the rim on a regular basis", also known for a "high basketball IQ" and unselfish play. Sounds like that could just as easily be an evaluation of Simmons as well.
Zeller, coming out of college, was noted for being "an incrediably agile and fluid big man who runs the floor well and has the ability to play above the rim on a regular basis", also known for a "high basketball IQ" and unselfish play. Sounds like that could just as easily be an evaluation of Simmons as well.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 10:38 am
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:40 am to BornKjun
At this point in his development he is more like Magic Johnson than anyone else. Magic was a poor outside shooter when he came into the league, but he worked at it enough to become enough of a threat to open up more of his game.
People forget the talented players who were Magic's teammates at Michigan State and with the Lakers. Greg Kelser, Jay Vincent and Mike Brkovich were all NBA draftees. Magic averaged 17.0 points, 7.9 rebounds and 7.4 assists per game as a freshman.
The only reason Magic Johnson was drafted by the Lakers with the first pick in the draft was a bad trade by the then New Orleans Jazz. The Lakers starting lineup Magic's rookie season was Kareem, Spencer Haywood, Jamal Wilkes, Norm Nixon and Magic.
It's not like Magic singlehandedly carried his teams to championships. He had superior talent that he played with.
People forget the talented players who were Magic's teammates at Michigan State and with the Lakers. Greg Kelser, Jay Vincent and Mike Brkovich were all NBA draftees. Magic averaged 17.0 points, 7.9 rebounds and 7.4 assists per game as a freshman.
The only reason Magic Johnson was drafted by the Lakers with the first pick in the draft was a bad trade by the then New Orleans Jazz. The Lakers starting lineup Magic's rookie season was Kareem, Spencer Haywood, Jamal Wilkes, Norm Nixon and Magic.
It's not like Magic singlehandedly carried his teams to championships. He had superior talent that he played with.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:46 am to Poodlebrain
Magic Johnson was a generational type talent. Magic was a very charismatic leader and great ball handler in addition to being able to pass the ball well. You really seen anything from Simmons to think that? See the Zeller comparison above for a more reasonable comparison.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:17 am to boxcar willie
I watched enough of LSU basketball to know that Simmons has the knack for getting the ball to the player with the best opportunity for an easy or open shot. I also watched enough LSU basketball to know that Simmons' teammates blew way too many of those opportunities, and they were piss poor at recognizing opportunities for others to get easy shots.
I expect Simmons will look better once he starts playing with better players than his LSU teammates.
I expect Simmons will look better once he starts playing with better players than his LSU teammates.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:02 pm to Poodlebrain
Simmons upside would be to develop into a taller but less aggressive version of Jason Kidd. Perhaps a cross between Cody Zeller and Jason Kidd. Simmons is definitely worth taking a chance on with a lottery pick in the NBA draft.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:05 pm to BornKjun
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Best NBA comparison for Simmons:
I'm thinking Kris Humphries
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:15 pm to gmrkr5
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I'm thinking Kris Humphries
that's probably a pretty accurate and more realistic comparison. Pretty similar games and style of play. I think Simmons is a better passer though. Humphries has had a long and somewhat productive NBA career. Lot of parallels there. Simmons could easily develop into a Kris Humphries type player.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:27 pm to speckhead
Speckheader you sure hung up on that jumpshot comment. They are dozens of nba players that were drafted high without a jumpshot.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:07 pm to BornKjun
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Antetokounmpo
God bless you or gesundheit
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:40 pm to gmrkr5
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I'm thinking Kris Humphries
break them down for me. id love to hear this one
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:54 pm to tigerbytail
They are true centers or defensive presents, he is either of them.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 5:24 pm to Lester Earl
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what scary is Ben is a more explosive athlete. But similar body profiles for sure minus the wingspan. Greek has like a 7'5" wingspan
they're actually built a lot differently.
giannis is much much much springier and longer than ben. ben is a much better natural passer and has a higher IQ. but the combo of length and explosiveness for giannis is off the charts. ben isn't really a leaper. i think he's an above average athlete for his size and position but giannis a freakish athlete. ben is more freakish from the footwork, fluidity, coordination, handle, court vision perspective.
giannis is looooooong. like block people from the baseline type long. like dunk in traffic off of a eurostep type long.
ben is great. but lamar odom without the scoring is a much better comparison for him. another comp for ben would be lebron when he first entered the league, without the crazy athleticism.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 5:38 pm to supatigah
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Lamar Odom 2.0
Yeah I think the Lamar Odom comparison might be the best 1. Simmons might be a bit better of a ball handler in the open court and passer while Odom had a nice mid range game and more polished as a scorer. If Simmons can develop that, and I think he can / will, then I think he will be a "better version" of Lamar.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 6:13 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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ben isn't really a leaper
this was from last spring when LSU had their skills combine
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Simmons also tested off the charts athletically, with a 41 ½ inch vertical, a lightning quick lane agility time, and what would be the all-time fastest ¾ court sprint number in the history of the DraftExpress database if LSU's testing results are to be believed.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 7:31 pm to Lester Earl
LSU fans feel like Ben didn't give 100% efort. This stat supports that assumption. Ben played soft for a reason. That being staying injury free for the big pay day. Coming here where he could instead of go ing to a Kentucky or Duke where he wouldn't played uunder there coaches. I think that may have stunted his growth in the long run
Posted on 3/17/16 at 8:33 pm to Lester Earl
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Simmons also tested off the charts athletically, with a 41 ½ inch vertical, a lightning quick lane agility time, and what would be the all-time fastest ¾ court sprint number in the history of the DraftExpress database if LSU's testing results are to be believed.
yeah and stanley roberts was listed at 7'2 and under 300 lbs. we'll see if that's true on the court or in the combine (should he participate).
the problem regardless is that if it came to the fact that he's a freakish athlete, than very rarely was that athleticism on display. what's the use for jumping out of the gym if you never do it. jordan farmar had a 43" vertical too.
i don't believe the testing results.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 8:41 pm to LSU Fan 90812
That Zeller comparison, really? 
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