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re: Best guess on who LSUs 3 permanents are?

Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:32 am to
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:32 am to
My guess is ole miss, bama and A&M even if someone said it’s not gonna be bama
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:32 am to


Here's what I thinks the locks for each team are:

Bama: AU, Tenn
Arkansas: Texas, Mizzou
Auburn: Bama, UGA
UF: UGA
UGA: Auburn, UF, USC
UK: Vandy, Florida
LSU: Ole Miss
MSU: Ole Miss
Mizzou: Arkansas
OU: Texas
Ole Miss: MSU, LSU
USC: UGA
Tenn: Bama, Vandy
Texas: OU, aTm
aTm: Texas
Vandy: Tenn, UK

I believe that the SEC will look at the overall Conference and decide no team will get 3 permanent opponents that are in the "top half" of the conference historically (or vice versa).

So that means Bama and Auburn won't get LSU.

There's a lot more that I think fill in the gaps here (like I think they match up Vandy and OM again as permanents)

It also means that LSU won't get a grouping like OM, Arkansas, and aTm, despite OM's resurgence lately.

Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:33 am to
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My guess is ole miss, bama and A&M even if someone said it’s not gonna be bama

so who do you play for Thanksgiving?
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Florida



You can tell how old a poster is based on if they have Florida on their 3. Most are late 30s to early 40s. I'd bet you are in your late 30s.

If you ask someone under 35, who LSU's biggest rival is, they'll answer Bama. If you ask someone 36 to early 40s, they will say Florida. If you ask someone very old, like over 80 or so, they'll say Ole Miss. If you ask someone in 60s or 70s, some may even say Tulane.

Besides Tulane, it all comes down to who was LSU's best opponent when they were in college aged. And for people who are 38 or 39, that was Florida. Not many 20 year olds are going to say Florida is a Top 3 rival of LSU.

No body in SEC scheduling office in Birmingham, Alabama will see Florida as a huge rival for LSU. I would be shocked if Florida makes it. I see a 1% chance of that happening.
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 12:07 pm to
My guess is two natural and one not

Something like Ole Miss, Alabama and MIssouri/Arkansas

Florida will have Tennessee and UGA so I think we lose that one
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 12:12 pm to
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My guess is ole miss, bama and A&M even if someone said it’s not gonna be bama


The thing with that is SEC office said that for top half SEC teams, they will have 2 top half opponents and 1 bottom half. For bottom half SEC teams, they will have 1 top half opponents and 2 bottom half.

As of recent since Kiffin's arrival, I'd say Ole Miss and A&M are around the 7th and 8th spots with Bama obviously top half. That'd give LSU 3 top half opponents which the SEC office said they would not do. I hope they replace one of those with Arkansas.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 12:12 pm to
The issue isn't who is or was LSU's biggest rival. The issue is LSU does not have a rival that considers them their biggest rival other than Tulane.

Florida, Bama, Ole Miss, Auburn ALL have bigger rivals than LSU so the biggest game of that time period has incorrectly defaulted to the "biggest rival" rather than just the biggest game.

Florida will still think of UGA and Tennessee as a bigger rival than LSU
Bama will consider Tennessee and Auburn bigger than LSU
Auburn will have Bama and UGA over LSU
Ole Miss is closest because it's Miss State and then LSU but at times, the games have not been competitive and rivalries are best when competitive.

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 12:15 pm to
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The thing with that is SEC office said that for top half SEC teams, they will have 2 top half opponents and 1 bottom half. For bottom half SEC teams, they will have 1 top half opponents and 2 bottom half.



This is exactly why they need to get rid of permanent opponents altogether.

Go to a true rotation and if Bama/Auburn, Texas/aTM or OU, UGA/Auburn, Bama/Tennessee etc want to play each other in years when they're not in the rotation, let them schedule it and not count against the conference record. The same thing has already been done in college football and college baseball so it's not impossible BUT those programs want to protect their rivalries at the expense of other programs and it's bullshite.

If you want permanent opponants, you go back to divisions.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 12:15 pm to
NM
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Someone in the know said Bama won’t be one


Reason why is the SEC said they will give top half SEC teams 2 top half opponents and 1 bottom half. Historically, Auburn has been a top half. Tenn recently has been top half. That's kind of subjective as Auburn sucks now, and Tenn sucks in the 2010s. If they consider Tenn and Auburn as top half SEC teams and consider the Tenn rivalry more important than LSU, then LSU would not play Bama.

I'd be in favor of that as LSU would probably have a nati or two more if Bama was never on the schedule. At least 1 more.
Posted by Vanilla Thunder
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 12:57 pm to
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Adams College


They’re not the same after losing Goebel, Burke and Polowatski
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 1:35 pm to
Why have a mega conference if you're gonna have permanent opponents. The rivalries have already been established it don't matter if you play the same team year in and year out
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 1:41 pm to
With the fluidity of conferences these days, “permanent” is not the description I would use.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 1:56 pm to
LSU will get Ole Miss and A&M for sure.

LSU will get neither Bama nor Auburn due to who those two teams will definitely get.

My best guess is Oklahoma only because the SEC wants us to play each other at season's end.
Posted by semjase
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:25 pm to
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Hogwarts
Adams College
Port Chester University
Hey, none of those are in the SEC, so they can't be one of the permanents, but they look very much eligible for DAVA to schedule them for one of his entertaining OOC games in the Tiger.

DAVA does the absolute minimum possible to hold on to that job. He should have been extricated from LSU a long time ago, but hangs on by virtue of LSU's "Special Wokeness Minority Preference" statute..........
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19569 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:52 pm to


Thoughts?

another version with LSU vs AL below..



I’m guessing you don’t like this last one as Ole Miss isn’t included.. I think I’m just hung up on the Thanksgiving game.. I know most don’t want OU, but you have to play someone

Option 1 - OU, FL, OM
Option 2 - OU, FL, AL
Option 3 - OU, OM, AL
Option 4 - ARK, FL, OM
Option 5 - ARK, FL, AL
Option 6 - ARK, OM, AL
Option 7 - FL, OM, AL with Tulane at Thanksgiving

I’m guess the answer will be 7 for most, but will the SEC office let you do that? Why? Because then one of Mizzou, Arkansas or Oklahoma has to go find a Thanksgiving partner.

Yes, Mizzou + Kansas works, as does OU vs The Pokes, but what if neither or both want that.. I guess that is Arkansas’s problem.. Anyways, Ive been trying to solve this puzzle for 3 years..
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:12 pm to
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Permanent opponent candidates with my predictions it actually happens

100% OM
90% A&M
70% Bama
—believe it’s those 3^

30% Arkansas
25% Florida
10% Oklahoma
5% State
—small likelihood it’s any of these^

Zero chance it’s any others

ETA
quote:
Someone in the know said Bama won’t be one
haven’t heard that but believable the SEC offices wouldn’t give Bama lsu when they already have Tennessee and Auburn as permanents


This is best answer here.
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:14 pm to
I don't have any desire to continue playing Bama, at least they won't be the same now. It's hard to see LSU not being matched with Bama as it has had 90% of CBS SEC primetime Saturday matchups from 2011 to 2023. Bama-Tennessee is kind of a has been rivalry that's played backseat to LSU since 2007 really. Depends on how much they take recency over history.

I don't think it will be OU, FL, Ole Miss. I'd definitely take that though.
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 4:16 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:18 pm to
6 months of these posts is gonna be torture
Posted by BayouPride
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:25 pm to
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With the fluidity of conferences these days, “permanent” is not the description I would use.


This. Every time I have a strong opinion on this and want to sound off, I remember that we may be adding teams to the league in the near future and today’s scheduling debate will be obsolete
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