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re: Bert Jones versus Jamarcus Russell
Posted on 6/17/17 at 2:43 pm to Penrod
Posted on 6/17/17 at 2:43 pm to Penrod
This has to be t he dumbest post ever. Zero comparison. Bert Jones was the best QB ever at LSU and a great NFL QB. Russell did nothing and cost us a National Championship, due to his lack of focus. Get a life.
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 2:48 pm to Ethan Martin
Jamarcus did nothing but cost LSU a national championship?
Are you aware how fricking stupid that statement is?
Are you aware how fricking stupid that statement is?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 2:58 pm to Ethan Martin
Care to explain that one, Ethan?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:06 pm to Penrod
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Clearly Jamarcus was a colossal bust in his career
Did you not see one fricking thing I posted? That shite isn't made up and comes from LSUSports.net.
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And that is a pity to any sensible person.
Well then any sensible person is an idiot. Again, look at my post and see how many records JR holds at LSU.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:06 pm to msbargas
Not only was Jones a great NFL QB. He played on a very mediocre Colts team throughout his career.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:10 pm to LSUgrad08112
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he was a lazy embarrassment in the NFL unlike Bert.
Do you really feel embarrassed? I don't.
The guy made a hell of a lot of money (more than me and you put together) being a great QB at LSU. What the hell does the money he took from the idiots running the Oakland football franchise have to do with what he accomplished at LSU?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:14 pm to msbargas
The Ruston Rifle. None Better!
Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:20 pm to Tiger Ree
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Did you not see one fricking thing I posted?
Sure, and I agree with your assesment of his LSU career. He was still a bust. In fact, he is one of a half dozen men who, to football fans around the nation, defines the word "bust".
Let me ask you this, Do you think Ryan Leaf was a bust?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:26 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:Have you no pride, no sense of further accomplishment?
The guy made a hell of a lot of money (more than me and you put together) being a great QB at LSU. What the hell does the money he took from the idiots running the Oakland football franchise have to do with what he accomplished at LSU?
Peyton Manning, I guess in your book, also could taken his #1 draft pick money, bombed out of the league, and you could say "he got paid" too.
But instead, Peyton worked hard, broke almost every NFL record, won a couple Super Bowls and is a surefire Hall of Famer (and btw, "got paid" MORE because of that).
Jamarcus was the #1 pick. In theory, he could be the top QB in the league right now, in his prime, with a potent Raiders offense, and likely have a ring or so. Instead, he was one of the worst busts in NFL history, in large part because he would rather sit around getting buzzed up on drugs, instead of working his arse off to keep getting better. That's embarrassing.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:40 pm to Penrod
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He was still a bust.
He was not a bust at LSU. What the frick does it matter what he did after he won 25 games while only losing 4 at LSU?
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he is one of a half dozen men who, to football fans around the nation, defines the word "bust".
Does that bother you? He got a lot of money and won 25 games for LSU. I don't give a frick what he did other than that.
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Let me ask you this, Do you think Ryan Leaf was a bust?
Let me ask you this, Do you like Jeremy Hill are you proud of him? Do you think he was a great LSU player and even better because of what he has done in the NFL? Him having sex with an underage girl at his school means nothing to you? It's all about what he accomplishes in the NFL?
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Let me ask you this
Let me ask you this, Do you like Tyrann Mathieu are you proud of him? He didn't even graduate from LSU. He didn't leave LSU early for the NFL. He was fricking kicked off the fricking LSU team.
But hey, he has done good in the NFL. Damn, who cares if they are having sex with underage girls or are asked to get the frick away from the LSU program. They are "GOOD" in the NFL and that is all that matters.
Jamarcus won 25 games for LSU and didn't do good in the NFL so he sucks. Didn't have sex with underage chicks or get kicked the frick out of the LSU program but yeah, lets crucify that SOB.
frick you if your little feelings get hurt over him making a lot of money and being one of the best LSU QB's of all time. Go on and praise Jeremy and Tyrann - they deserve your praise and JM doesn't since you are an LSU fan, right?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:54 pm to Tiger Ree
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Does that bother you?
No. However, it is still a fact. No one was arguing that he was a bust at LSU. Several, including me, were saying simply that he was a bust. Of course, this is a relative term. I'm not going to argue that he was a bust in your eyes - you'd know that best.
However, Jamarcus WAS a bust in the opinion of the vast majority of football fans.
I googled"biggest bust in nfl history" and guess who is NUMERO UNO.???
You previously responded that you don't care what happened after his LSU career. That's a perfectly reasonable point of view, but it's your own quirky opinion. You can't expect the rest of the world to consider that any more than I can press upon you that I don't care what he did on Saturdays.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:56 pm to Tiger Ree
You are arguing just for the sake of arguing.
You can clearly see that the other people in this thread are talking about the entire career and you are trying to make it about only at LSU.
If Bert was in his prime on the LSU team that Jamarcus was on then Jamarcus might not have any records.
It is impossible to compare different eras because of the different styles of play and other variables.
Both had great careers at LSU.
However using the full body of work Bert was the better overall QB.
You can clearly see that the other people in this thread are talking about the entire career and you are trying to make it about only at LSU.
If Bert was in his prime on the LSU team that Jamarcus was on then Jamarcus might not have any records.
It is impossible to compare different eras because of the different styles of play and other variables.
Both had great careers at LSU.
However using the full body of work Bert was the better overall QB.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:05 pm to Penrod
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quote:Does that bother you?
quote: No. However, it is still a fact
Come on man, you are full of shite and everyone knows it. You made your post. Don't try to crawfish now.
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Jamarcus WAS a bust in the opinion of the vast majority of football fans.
I didn't and won't click the link. Let me ask you this: What to JM and Bert have in common? Huh?
Yes, they both played at LSU. Did the OP ask who had the best career overall? Did he ask who had the best pro career? I don't think so. But, that was the only thing you had to use to shite on Jamarcus. It's cool, you don't like him. Very understandable after the SOB lost 4 games in his whole career at LSU.
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You can't expect the rest of the world
God damn it man. Are you fricking serious? The "rest of the world". Drugs are a hell of a drug !!!
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any more than I can press upon you that I don't care what he did on Saturdays
Weird
Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:10 pm to Tiger Ree
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Tiger Ree
Hell, I just realized I know you. In fact, I'm looking at you right now. Look up, honey. You're my wife, right?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:13 pm to Penrod
The original question was "Who was better?" Jones was better. Done.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:14 pm to wildcat81tiger86
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You are arguing just for the sake of arguing
No I am not. If I was arguing for the sake of arguing I would be wrong. I am right and challenge you to prove anything I have said it wrong.
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You can clearly see that the other people in this thread are talking about the entire career and you are trying to make it about only at LSU.
The OP didn't ask about the "entire" career. Even if he did, is that a reason to hate one of the best LSU football players of all time?
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If Bert was in his prime on the LSU team that Jamarcus was on then Jamarcus might not have any records
If the hulk or "the 6 million dollar man" was batting for LSU would they have lost as many games as they did? Who knows?
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It is impossible to compare different eras because of the different styles of play and other variables.
Are we still talking about the pros like you insinuated earlier in your post???? Remember now, college doesn't matter in this conversation and you are getting way off topic dumbass.
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Both had great careers at LSU.
bullshite. Jamarcus sucks, did suck, still sucks. 25 wins over 2 fricking seasons, frick that MF'r.
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However using the full body of work Bert was the better overall QB
I don't know. Who made more money? Who got a beating making less money?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:34 pm to msbargas
Bert Jones was phenomenal but Andy Hamilton did not drop a pass.
And that is from a man who was in the stadium watching every game.
And that is from a man who was in the stadium watching every game.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:55 pm to msbargas
This thread so far has turned out about as expected.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:58 pm to msbargas
I saw both play. Bert Jones was a pure passer, great accuracy and good instincts.
Jamarcus Russell had a cannon for an arm and good accuracy with unbelievable mobility for his size.
Bert Jones was my era so I am somewhat partial to his playing days.
HOWEVER - if Jamarcus Russell had the discipline and work ethic to match his talent, he could very well have been the greatest QB of all time.
No doubt, the greatest waste of talent in football history.
Jamarcus Russell had a cannon for an arm and good accuracy with unbelievable mobility for his size.
Bert Jones was my era so I am somewhat partial to his playing days.
HOWEVER - if Jamarcus Russell had the discipline and work ethic to match his talent, he could very well have been the greatest QB of all time.
No doubt, the greatest waste of talent in football history.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 5:24 pm to msbargas
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They were 2 of the best pure passers at LSU
Tommy Hodson would be number 1 correct?? If russell had any amount of brains then he probably would have been number 1.
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