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re: Ben Simmons with another triple double

Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:02 am to
Posted by Mikethegreat
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:02 am to
Tape does show him in an lsu uniform
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:42 am to
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He couldn’t shoot, I mean come on!


He scored 20ppg while shooting 56%. You don’t realize how fricking dumb you sound right now


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He surely wasn’t great


1st overall pick
National freshman of the year
SEC POTY
SEC Freshman of the year
1st team all American

First SEC player to finish top 5 in pts rebs & asts in history
Led all major conference players in double doubles

You have a weird definition of greatness
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:47 am to
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He couldn’t shoot, I mean come on!
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He scored 20ppg while shooting 56%. You don’t realize how fricking dumb you sound right now
come on, Lester, you know what the poster means.

Many big guys play inside and have good FG %, but can't shoot a lick outside 10 feet. Hell, Shaq finished his NBA career making 58% of his shots, but shot only 53% from the free throw line. Why? Because he couldn't shoot.

Simmons can't shoot outside 12 feet, but maybe that will improve over the years. But at LSU, and apparently now in the NBA, he's not a shooter. Maybe he's a scorer, but not a shooter.

And you know the difference.
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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288261 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:39 am to
Of course I know the difference, but you can’t knock him for not being able to shoot when he is making a high volume of shots at an outrageous clip.

Some of the best players now & then couldn’t “shoot” either. That is the most worthless criticism of Simmons you can hit him with
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19731 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:29 pm to
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Of course I know the difference, but you can’t knock him for not being able to shoot when he is making a high volume of shots at an outrageous clip.

Some of the best players now & then couldn’t “shoot” either. That is the most worthless criticism of Simmons you can hit him with
Lester, now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

You completely ignored my post - which was that FG%, by itself, doesn't reveal whether a player is a good SHOOTER. For example, Shaq had a career 58% FG percentage, but was an AWFUL SHOOTER. Everybody in the world knows this.

And I never said a great player has to be a great shooter.

I merely agreed with a prior poster who said Simmons isn't a great shooter. Which is true. Now he may be a great SCORER, but that's different than being a great SHOOTER.
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