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b rod lsu
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Pretty amazing (see: pathetic) the venom some LSU fans still show towards him even after it's been proven beyond a doubt that Jones was an atrocious head coach



Pretty much this. His stat line was insane for any college player, much less a true freshman - 19.2 ppg (on 56% shooting), 11.8 rpg, 4.8 apg and 2.0 spg.

As for this "he didn't bleed p&g" nonsense, the guy literally could have played at any school he wanted to. If Johnny Jones coached as well as Simmons played, we would have been a S16 team.


TigerBait1127
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Spending a year off acting like he's already accomplished something, talking smack and lollygagging around probably helped.



What does this even mean?

Jesus Christ we have some idiotic fans.


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Stewie Griffin
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Kentucky – 14/10/4



Going to nitpick. Ben was very, very quiet in this game until late. Got in foul trouble early. Quarterman carried the show.

Also, the Oklahoma game, taking 1 shot the final 10 minutes while Buddy Hield hit 5 threes was, well, not great.

Overall, though, Ben was outstanding at LSU. He lacked in leadership, and the film crew debacle was nonsense, but that decision shouldn't have been left up to Ben, who played hard (mostly) and well for LSU.

The fact that the injury which sidelined him this year was a Jones fracture is too ironic not to elicit a chuckle.


buccaneer88
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
Your mother is the biggest whore in town so nothing secret regarding her.


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TheCaterpillar
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Going to nitpick. Ben was very, very quiet in this game until late. Got in foul trouble early. Quarterman carried the show.

Also, the Oklahoma game, taking 1 shot the final 10 minutes while Buddy Hield hit 5 threes was, well, not great.



Quietly had a double double against the most talented team in the country. That is failing for him.

And I agree, he didn't take over those games, but it wasn't all on him. He was double teamed constantly. Any coach with a pulse would take advantage of this because it frees up other players.

And top opposing coaches were smart because they knew Ben was our lifeline so they attacked him early and often to get him into foul trouble, because they knew our offense was "pass the ball to Ben and see what happens".

If we had decent rotation, off ball movement, and could pass the ball effectively, Ben Simmons would've had even more ridiculous statistics.

I bet the NBA scouts watching his games and films were at a loss for words regarding Johnny's coaching. Just unreal.

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He lacked in leadership


I agree but he was the youngest guy on the team. Johnny failed here. The older guys failed here.

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and the film crew debacle was nonsense, but that decision shouldn't have been left up to Ben,


Agreed. WTF. Why was this allowed?





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LSU4ever2002
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
His coach said he didnt grow, and is not 7'.


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thunderbird1100
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Pretty much this. His stat line was insane for any college player, much less a true freshman - 19.2 ppg (on 56% shooting), 11.8 rpg, 4.8 apg and 2.0 spg.



There are some truly butthurt "fans" on here who still will blame Simmons for 2 seasons ago...despite the fact, well, looking at the facts. The dude had the best freshman year ever at LSU. Johnny Jones couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.


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As for this "he didn't bleed p&g" nonsense, the guy literally could have played at any school he wanted to. If Johnny Jones coached as well as Simmons played, we would have been a S16 team.



Yep, people need to blame the system, not the players. This guy didn't even grow up in this country, dreamed of playing in the NBA, simply went to a college because it's the best option in terms of NBA exposure and draft-ability...he chose us because Johnny employed his godfather, a guy he felt comfortable around. Why anyone expected him to ooze purple and gold and pump us up like he would be a 4-year player is laughable. He gave us a great individual season, much like many 1 and dones do, and like many 1 and dones, moved on to the NBA and probably wont ever really care about the college they took a handful of classes at. Who cares? He still played well here, that's all that matters.


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atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Going to nitpick. Ben was very, very quiet in this game until late. Got in foul trouble early. Quarterman carried the show.

Also, the Oklahoma game, taking 1 shot the final 10 minutes while Buddy Hield hit 5 threes was, well, not great.


The Oklahoma game was shocking. Vitale and Musberger (I believe it was him) were begging, and I mean BEGGING, Simmons to step up. But he never did, and we watched Hield take over, like great players and leaders do. When Dickie V criticizes a player, you know it's bad, because Vitale has made a career of blowing players and coaches.

Simmons also passed up a game-winning shot against Marquette earlier in the year. Even the female color analyst couldn't believe it.


TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Pretty amazing (see: pathetic) the venom some LSU fans still show towards him even after it's been proven beyond a doubt that Jones was an atrocious head coach


Eating their own is what LSU fans are best at.


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TheCaterpillar
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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The Oklahoma game was shocking. Vitale and Musberger (I believe it was him) were begging, and I mean BEGGING, Simmons to step up. But he never did, and we watched Hield take over, like great players and leaders do. When Dickie V criticizes a player, you know it's bad, because Vitale has made a career of blowing players and coaches.

Simmons also passed up a game-winning shot against Marquette earlier in the year. Even the female color analyst couldn't believe it.


To be fair, Heild was an upperclassmen.

And for Marquette, he was a freshman PF with an average shot at best so he probably thought it best someone else take it. And in that game he had 23/20 sooo I don't think that rests on him.

People seem to forget he was a freshman.


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GetmorewithLes
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
needed to grow up.


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atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Did he grow a jump shot?

and the ability to actually shoot a left-handed layup (very odd for a left-hander).


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thunderbird1100
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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The Oklahoma game was shocking. Vitale and Musberger (I believe it was him) were begging, and I mean BEGGING, Simmons to step up. But he never did, and we watched Hield take over, like great players and leaders do. When Dickie V criticizes a player, you know it's bad, because Vitale has made a career of blowing players and coaches.

Simmons also passed up a game-winning shot against Marquette earlier in the year. Even the female color analyst couldn't believe it.


This is getting extremely nitpicky. The kid was a freshman playing for a coach who had no idea what he was doing. He had an amazing season, you shouldn't expect a freshman to take over every single game and win it for you. He also obviously had no jump shot, so why would he take game ending shots? This would be like us expecting Shaq to take game ending jump shots. Would you rather a guy who cant shoot, shoot it, or a shooter?
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jtran1988
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
Probably with shoes on. Just like how people call a Dwight Howard a 7 footer, when he's really 6'9 without shoes.


lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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he never bled purple and gold

Well he's from Australia and had/has absolutely no connection to LSU other than his godfather. Do you think every one the other one-and-dones "bleed (insert color of schools)"? If so, you're one of the most naive posters I've come across. What a silly barometer for hating a college aged kid.
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TigerBait1127
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Member since Jun 2005
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
Problem is that Quarterman thought he was that guy down the stretch, and he destroyed us with his awful 3 point shooting.

If you put good shooters around him, he'll excel. It was fun watching him in summer ball


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Bmath
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Why would anyone listen to that?


To get the listener code for 1800-Flowers, be reminded to eat at Subway, and learn about Dollar Shave Club.


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TigerBait1127
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Probably with shoes on. Just like how people call a Dwight Howard a 7 footer, when he's really 6'9 without shoes


Shoes aren't going to give anyone 3 inches. He's not wearing heels
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lsupride87
LSU Fan
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Member since Dec 2007
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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he never bled purple and gold
Why the frick would he? He put up one of the best seasons in SEC history, one of the best seasons for a freshman ever at lsu, and he was hated and blamed by most of our fanbase.

If I was him I wouwld actively shite on lsu


atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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The kid was a freshman playing for a coach who had no idea what he was doing. He had an amazing season, you shouldn't expect a freshman to take over every single game and win it for you. He also obviously had no jump shot, so why would he take game ending shots? This would be like us expecting Shaq to take game ending jump shots. Would you rather a guy who cant shoot, shoot it, or a shooter?

The "freshman" excuse doesn't work in basketball. True freshmen, especially no. 1 NBA picks, can take over games and lead their teams. Happens all the time.

And he can't shoot a jumper, so I wouldn't expect him to launch an 18-footer for the win, but his game is getting to the rim, so GET TO THE RIM, and either finish or draw a foul. He was a decent free throw shooter, so get to the line.

But don't shy away from big moments.


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