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lsupride87
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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True freshmen, especially no. 1 NBA picks, can take over games and lead their teams. Happens all the time.
Averaging 19.2 ppg (on 56% shooting), 11.8 rpg, 4.8 apg and 2.0 spg in a 40 minute game is pretty much doing that.........


TampaTiger22
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
Still can't shoot a lick.


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RedTigerRulz
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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What a silly barometer for hating a college aged kid.





did I say I hated the kid? Guess you're a mind reader huh? You like to come wading in like king shite with your know it all attitude.
I dont like one and dones....thats my point. I dont like kids playing for LSU who dont want to show any loyalty to the program.


TigerBait1127
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Houston
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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dont like one and dones....thats my point. I dont like kids playing for LSU who dont want to show any loyalty to the program.


So we shouldn't take one and dones?


atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Averaging 19.2 ppg (on 56% shooting), 11.8 rpg, 4.8 apg and 2.0 spg in a 40 minute game is pretty much doing that.........


big number, but those are hollow stats.

Yes, his numbers (in a vacuum) were very good, but they didn't translate into wins, and he shied away from taking over games when his team desperately needed it. Maybe there was a game or two where he did (Vandy on the road was one, I recall) but far, far too often I had to actually look hard to see if he was on the floor. And I'm not kidding.

So yes, great numbers, but they didn't lead to anything.


c on z
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Member since Mar 2009
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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So we shouldn't take one and dones?

It is sadly the mindset of some around here.


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lsu2006
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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did I say I hated the kid? Guess you're a mind reader huh? You like to come wading in like king shite with your know it all attitude.
I dont like one and dones....thats my point. I dont like kids playing for LSU who dont want to show any loyalty to the program.

Yeah that selfish a-hole should have stayed back and played another year for Johnny Jones. Who cares if he was the #1 overall pick and makes more money than in your wettest of wet dreams?


TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Yes, his numbers (in a vacuum) were very good,


That vacuum being on the basketball court.

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but far, far too often I had to actually look hard to see if he was on the floor. And I'm not kidding. 




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RedTigerRulz
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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and he was hated and blamed by most of our fanbase.

If I was him I wouwld actively shite on lsu


You are full of absolute crap.
Most of the venom spewed occurred after he left.....and it was directed more at JJ for wasting his talent than directly at him.


TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts

re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Most of the venom spewed occurred after he left.....and it was directed more at JJ for wasting his talent than directly at him.





You are so full of absolute crap.


c on z
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Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Mar 2009
101617 posts

re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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but they didn't translate into wins

Only one coach in America would put an entire team in a situation where its best player's stats wouldn't translate into wins.


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thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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The "freshman" excuse doesn't work in basketball. True freshmen, especially no. 1 NBA picks, can take over games and lead their teams. Happens all the time.



So as a 18/19 year old first year in college you expect him to take over and win every game? Do you even watch sports? How often do true freshmen in college basketball take over and win every close game for their team? The guy as a TRUE FRESHMAN goes 28/17 in a game and you're complaining that he didn't "take over". OR he didn't take a final shot in a game he went 21/20 in (his 4th EVER collegiate game)? That's how ridiculous you sound.


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And he can't shoot a jumper, so I wouldn't expect him to launch an 18-footer for the win, but his game is getting to the rim, so GET TO THE RIM, and either finish or draw a foul. He was a decent free throw shooter, so get to the line.



And how often do you see game ending shots being around the rim? Hardly ever because the refs swallow their whistles, so teams can usually just hack away at anyone trying to get to the rim with little time remaining. This is why you see so many jump shots in close games as a final shot...it's not worth relying on the refs to blow the whistle to give you a chance. Even then, he wasn't a good free throw shooter (67% isn't good), so why would you want a guy like that to go to the line and win it for you? So basically because he had great games, you expect in crunch time a guy who cant shoot and is a 67% FT shooter to take the last shot or get to the FT line and win it for you (not to mention is a true freshman)? That's ridiculous.


lsu2006
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BR
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Most of the venom spewed occurred after he left.....and it was directed more at JJ for wasting his talent than directly at him.

Have you actually read this very thread in which you're currently posting?


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RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
8897 posts

re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Yeah that selfish a-hole should have stayed back and played another year for Johnny Jones


Case in point..
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wettest of wet dreams?



Straight from the voice of experience.


lsu2006
USA Fan
BR
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
So you've got nothing to back up your bull shite. Cool, good talk


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thunderbird1100
LSU Fan
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Member since Oct 2007
48697 posts

re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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big number, but those are hollow stats.


Not his fault.

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Yes, his numbers (in a vacuum) were very good, but they didn't translate into wins


Again, not his fault.

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and he shied away from taking over games when his team desperately needed it


Somebody else needed to step up, that's not his role nor should it have been. He's NOT A SHOOTER, nor a good FT shooter, so why would you want him taking crunch time shots? Makes absolutely no sense.


RedTigerRulz
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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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So we shouldn't take one and dones?


Densemuch.....I just said I don't like them.

If you had a kid coming in that you knew would put up the same numbers as BS but would only stay a year...and produce a similar team record, would you take him?


TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts

re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
And LeBron James had the same criticism at a much older age and with NBA experience. It comes with the skillet and maturity


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TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts

re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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Densemuch.....I just said I don't like them. 





How am I dense? Especially when you follow it with this:

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If you had a kid coming in that you knew would put up the same numbers as BS but would only stay a year...and produce a similar team record, would you take him?


A good coach should be able to turn That into a tourney team with ease

That isn't the player's fault.

How about this year's team with zero one and dones? What a blast that was to watch!

Talk about dense.
This post was edited on 4/18 at 1:55 pm


DallasTiger45
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Member since May 2012
3722 posts

re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU
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If you had a kid coming in that you knew would put up the same numbers as BS but would only stay a year...and produce a similar team record, would you take him?



I would fire the coach that can only get mediocre results with a player putting up those numbers.


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