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re: Before NIL LSU would be in playoffs regularly ,if they cap NIL LSU will be

Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:49 am to
Posted by ELTIGRE55
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2023
361 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:49 am to
Most fans are like I already pay xxxx amount for season tickets, xxxx amount to park, xxxx amount on concessions and you want more money. Yeah right. lol
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:50 am to
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Most fans are like I already pay xxxx amount for season tickets, xxxx amount to park, xxxx amount on concessions and you want more money. Yeah right. lol


That seems like a lot of time invested into LSU when you are a self proclaimed D2 football fan.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
5800 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:52 am to
Really? LSU is not even in the top 25.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37771 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:55 am to
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The NFL has that rule in place, it has nothing to do with the NCAA.



That isn't entirely true, there was some collusion when that rule went into effect. But for the NFL, it is a good rule that allows them to evaluate players as and after they mature physically before they risk a roster spot on them. A developmental league would have to spring up if college football were not part of the equation. And if that happened, the OP would get what he wants, D2 or even club-level football as the college sport. True student-athletes.


Baseball and basketball are not on the same level as football in terms of physical stress and pounding endured by the body play after play. That is particularly true in the trenches.
Posted by ELTIGRE55
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2023
361 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:56 am to
Like I said I BET you donate a cent.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13082 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:58 am to
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The “team” doesn’t spend anything on NIL. It can’t


It's adorable you believe this. Multi million dollar deals aren't being handed out, with the direct intent meant to persuade a kid to play for your school, with the multi millionaires running these programs having no say, no negotiation power, no ability to say yay or nay. It's just not based on reality.
As for the school not spending, they have to beginning in 25. They owe billions and in order to not accumulate more they must pay the athletes. There is a reason collectives are being moved under the school umbrella. If the schools have no say, how do all these coaches know the "cap" they plan to work under? All the exact same range of numbers. Every coach in the SEC and many others across the country. If they have no control, how do they no how much they have to spend? It's naive to believe the schools play no part in the NIL circus.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4291 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:05 am to
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Conferences can create their own bylaws, break from the NCAA, form an entirely new league, there still isn't a world where putting a cap on NIL will be able to exist.


You sure a hard cap can’t be collectively bargained??
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7125 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:09 am to
Again with the NIL myth. LSU has money and 247 valued our collective as the 7th highest in division 1 sports. All of those people who donated to build some of the best facilities in college football during Saban, Miles and O's days didn't just fall off the face of the earth suddenly.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
3916 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:09 am to
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NIL isn't getting capped with a CBA either. "Sorry LeBron, Nike can't pay you 200 million for your shoe endorsement. That would be too big of a hit against our NIL cap."


This is correct, revenue share can be capped as direct pay for play from the universities with a CBA. This might diminish some of the need for NIL with mutually agreed salaries and portal constraints, but NIL is here to stay where the haves will always have an advantage over the have nots.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:10 am to
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You sure a hard cap can’t be collectively bargained??


For NIL? Absolutely not. Name one league that has caps on endorsement deals.

A cap will be bargained once rev shares become part of the game, but not NIL.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:11 am to
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Alabama and Ole Miss have a lot of NIL money.



One of these does not.

I swear, what is it with LSU fans that overinflated everything Ole Miss? It’s like you want them to be something they just aren’t.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:13 am to
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The amount a team can spend per year,.


Teams are paying NIL. People are. You can’t legally tell one person how much they can or can not give another person. That’s communism.
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
2054 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:13 am to
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Before NIL LSU would be in playoffs regularly


Before NIL LSU made the playoffs exactly one time.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
22182 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:13 am to
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Before NIL LSU would be in playoffs regularly
??

You have to win 10 games to expect to make the playoffs. LSU has only won 10 regular season games once in the last 13 years, long before NIL was talked about. The one opportunity lsu had in the playoffs they cashed in so we can be thankful for that but we are not elite as you claim to be making playoffs “regularly”
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:13 am to
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It's adorable you believe this. Multi million dollar deals aren't being handed out, with the direct intent meant to persuade a kid to play for your school, with the multi millionaires running these programs having no say, no negotiation power, no ability to say yay or nay. It's just not based on reality


Told y'all this was coming.

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If the schools have no say, how do all these coaches know the "cap" they plan to work under? All the exact same range of numbers. Every coach in the SEC and many others across the country. If they have no control, how do they no how much they have to spend? It's naive to believe the schools play no part in the NIL circus.


Nobody said they didn't play a part in it. Collectives aren't LSU directly paying players, that would be illegal. Collectives are a loophole to give schools some control over NIL spending. It's just a piece of the pie, a large piece for some, but it doesn't incorporate all of NIL.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:15 am to
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Let me give you their stock response. "But NIL is pay for play. If you think these teams aren't paying them money then you don't know what you are talking about."



Which only shows that they themselves don’t know what they are talking about and have failed to educate themselves on a topic they are attempting to discuss and should therefore be ignored.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4291 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:17 am to
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For NIL? Absolutely not. Name one league that has caps on endorsement deals


To be fair no other leagues supplies scholarships either… is it possible for a stature to insist that all NIL is handled through said conference???
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:17 am to
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Well the fans who do donate will WISE UP sooner or later and college sports will be DEAD.


Doubt it but if it dies then the NFL will just draft out of high school just like they do for all other sports.
Posted by ELTIGRE55
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2023
361 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:18 am to
This shouldn't never been about making student athletes and their familes rich, should've been about compensating a player who can't work due to sport obligations ,College kids typically work fast food and retail. So grossly 40 thousand a year.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2061 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:19 am to
Unless they put a cap on NiL we will never win another Natty! There are probably 15 teams ahead of us that we simply CANNOT compete with $$ wise.
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