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re: Been out, and I’m sure this has been discussed ad nauseam, but Neal totally fubar that

Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by WaterLink
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:14 pm to
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Been out


You should've stayed out
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:15 pm to
It doesn’t matter what the batter was doing, it’s fundamental you do not get in the zone on a pitch.

Unless you think all the stupid shite MLB stuff with guys getting catchers interference, and their forearm beat the shite with batters because they’re moving up in the box based on stupid analytics.
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:17 pm to
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It doesn’t matter what the batter was doing,

It actually does matter though.
Posted by tigger42day
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:17 pm to
He never touched home plate or stepped in front until he had possession of the ball.

Bad call, runner was out.

Now what is the call when a batter steps out of the batters box during an active pitch?
Posted by gabzooks
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:18 pm to
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That’s all fine and dandy, but I’m not focusing on the batter here. I’m focusing on 1kneals shite decisions at C.

Could he have received it more cleanly (resulting in zero drama)? Perhaps
Did he violate the actual rule they applied? Nah
Posted by purple18
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:18 pm to
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You realize that a batter is allowed to swing at a pitch, right? The batter could have knocked Neal in the back of the head and it would have been catcher's interference


But he didn’t…he stepped completely out the box before the pitch was delivered
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:18 pm to
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Automatic 2 strikes since there was a runner on base.

I wouldn't expect people like the OP to comprehend as they don't even know the rule they are espousing to be experts on in the first place.


Since you’re the expert, I figured you would pick up that OP didn’t Give two shits about the batters in or out of box in the OP.

Read better, friend.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:19 pm to
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It doesn’t matter what the batter was doing,

It actually does matter though.


For the whole play, yes. For what Neil did no.

It’s not that hard to separate the two for this discussion is it?
Posted by Tigershine
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:20 pm to
Stepping out of the batters box is an automatic TWO STRIKES. He already had one strike so inning should have been over at that point.
Posted by purple18
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:21 pm to
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he stays crouched even with a stupid arse one kneel down stuff, he catches the ball puts the glove on the plate and runner is out.


Put the ball on the plate?? You have to tag the runner before he touches the plate…what an idiot
Posted by Xenophon
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:21 pm to
Seems like he knew the rule exactly and did exactly what he knew he could do. But keep being wrong and blaming a player that did absolutely nothing wrong.
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:22 pm to
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Stepping out of the batters box is an automatic TWO STRIKES. He already had one strike so inning should have been over at that point.

Correct. And the count was actually 0-2
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:22 pm to
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Meauxjeaux
Why am I not surprised at your reaction.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:23 pm to
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Could he have received it more cleanly (resulting in zero drama)? Perhaps Did he violate the actual rule they applied? Nah


This is my point.

It’s a 90 mile an hour pitch. Receiving the ball at the front of the plate, versus receiving it at the front of the batters box is less than a millisecond difference.

You’ve got to be disciplined to stand the ground, receive the pitch, then apply a tag on third base side of the plate.

He does that and nothing else matters.

Instead, he put himself in danger with a very basic fundamental frick up. Also created a ton of crap in the game, which it was kind of fun to watch, but anyway.
Posted by canyon
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:23 pm to
Oops. Weird play that will be argued for a while.
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 10:25 pm
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:25 pm to
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he stays crouched even with a stupid arse one kneel down stuff, he catches the ball puts the glove on the plate and runner is out. Put the ball on the plate??

You have to tag the runner before he touches the plate…what an idiot



Jesus Christ, you know what I’m saying. receive the ball then make the tag. Put the ball a half inch up the third base line side of the plate. Or maybe stand up and dance a jig and touch the guy lightly on his thigh. Is that better for you?.
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 10:26 pm
Posted by IndianMoundFireworks
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:25 pm to
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It was clearly a pitch.


How can there be a pitch with no batter? The batter stepped out. It’s not possible for it to be a pitch.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:26 pm to
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Stepping out of the batters box is an automatic TWO STRIKES. He already had one strike so inning should have been over at that point.


Where are you guys finding this?? If a batter steps out of the batters box, I thought it’s a strike if the pitch is an actual strike or a ball if it’s a ball. I looked at the NCAA rule book and can’t find this “automatic strike” penalty for stepping out of the batters box.
Posted by gabzooks
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:27 pm to
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You’ve got to be disciplined to stand the ground, receive the pitch, then apply a tag on third base side of the plate. He does that and nothing else matters.

He got a bit antsy and rushed his reception of the ball, sure.

But you got to see how others don’t care because at the end of the day he didn’t actually violate the rule the umps said he did
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:27 pm to
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You’ve got to be disciplined to stand the ground, receive the pitch, then apply a tag on third base side of the plate. He does that and nothing else matters.

He did exactly that. Except a lot else mattered.
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Instead, he put himself in danger with a very basic fundamental frick up.

He wasn’t in danger. The batter was out of the box.
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