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Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:29 am to p226
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Of course not. You’ll just repost some bullshite from memory. Ok, thanks for helping out.
Again …. Let’s see a link to whatever “report” is out there where somebody spoke to WH’s parents. Like to see the quotes, what was said, who spoke to his parents. That’d be really interesting to see — if it exists
There was a thread earlier in the week. I remember it.
It's not that big a deal. Something was said to the effect of Howard just wanting a fair shot at second string and that he didn't want to play scout team another year.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:29 am to LSUTigahss
Bruh that sounds like lots of salt to me. He's implying BK plays favorites. Anyone with eyes can see on the field he got passed up. Everyone except Bech himself. He simply was not as talented as those other WRs getting reps on the field. In fact, all his touches this year are glaringly bad and deserving he had his reps pulled from him. He even found a way to make JD throw an INT which he hardly ever does because he had stone hands.
At some point you have to be accountable for yourself and show responsibility. Sounds like an entitled legacy recruit to me. Cya. Good luck at TCU you got passed up bruh with a loaded WR room it's as simple as that.
At some point you have to be accountable for yourself and show responsibility. Sounds like an entitled legacy recruit to me. Cya. Good luck at TCU you got passed up bruh with a loaded WR room it's as simple as that.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:30 am to AlwysATgr
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:31 am to wadewilson
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It's not that big a deal. Something was said to the effect of Howard just wanting a fair shot at second string and that he didn't want to play scout team another year.
Wasn’t it out there that Howard asked to be red shirted; thus he never was in the race for starting QB? It was just Brennan, Nuss and Daniels.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:41 am to doubleb
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Wasn’t it out there that Howard asked to be red shirted; thus he never was in the race for starting QB? It was just Brennan, Nuss and Daniels.
I think all of this is way overblown.
Howard just wants a chance to win it. So does Nuss. There should be an open competition again in 2023. At this point, you just have to trust that Kelly will offer that.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:41 am to Falco
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Higher ranked recruits/more hyped players coming in getting more reps in practice vs it being a fair workload and seeing who emerges would be my guess
Josh Williams vs John Emery destroys your argument.
The kid could have stayed and worked and got more PT.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:45 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
This is getting pretty toxic.
Bech didn't do well enough with the opportunities he had this year. Good luck to him at TCU. They had better QB play this season and some of their top targets actually left. He has a chance to get more reps with a better passing offense at TCU than he does here.
He's got 2 years of eligibility left. The time to increase his profile is now.
Bech didn't do well enough with the opportunities he had this year. Good luck to him at TCU. They had better QB play this season and some of their top targets actually left. He has a chance to get more reps with a better passing offense at TCU than he does here.
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The kid could have stayed and worked and got more PT.
He's got 2 years of eligibility left. The time to increase his profile is now.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:49 am to The Pirate King
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He absolutely had a role with even an average passing QB. See last year’s team.
This is such a lazy take.
There were 7 players on the team with more receptions than him this year. Last year he led the team in receptions. The level of QB play isn’t going to change that reality.
He was buoyed last year by several factors:
- He spent a fair amount of time playing out of position at TE because we were limited in that position, which kept him on the field for more snaps.
- Boutte had a season-ending injury, which gave everyone else more reps/targets.
- He was more polished out of the gate than our other freshman WRs.
Then Boutte came back, Jenkins came back, BTJ and Nabers continued to improve, and we got a true TE. His issue this year was his position on the depth chart, not QB play.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:02 pm to LSUTigahss
I hold no animus towards Bech. He didn't transfer to a rival (like Max or Ricks) so, best wishes and God bless.
I don't question his ability - led us in receptions as a true Fr.
And people referring to opt-outs and transfers as "quitters" is just small talk by small people. Players who leave eligibility on the field to go to the NFL or to another school to further their life's fortunes are not quitters any more than workers who change jobs. They may be traitors, if they go to rivals, but not quitters.
In one respect I think he just made a business decision. Here, he was never gonna be better than the 4th best WR. That's his ceiling at LSU.
OTOH, patience would have served him well. Eventually, he would have seen the field so being 4th best WR at LSU is still heading to the NFL - ask Racey. And the future looks very bright for us going forward.
And hopefully he's matured some from these days:
"You either with us or against us."
I don't question his ability - led us in receptions as a true Fr.
And people referring to opt-outs and transfers as "quitters" is just small talk by small people. Players who leave eligibility on the field to go to the NFL or to another school to further their life's fortunes are not quitters any more than workers who change jobs. They may be traitors, if they go to rivals, but not quitters.
In one respect I think he just made a business decision. Here, he was never gonna be better than the 4th best WR. That's his ceiling at LSU.
OTOH, patience would have served him well. Eventually, he would have seen the field so being 4th best WR at LSU is still heading to the NFL - ask Racey. And the future looks very bright for us going forward.
And hopefully he's matured some from these days:
"You either with us or against us."
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:06 pm to LSUTigahss
Nice kid. Didn’t pan out. Better talent ahead of him and costly mistakes led to less playing time. Bad look for him to not take any accountability. Good luck
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:08 pm to lostinbr
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His issue this year was his position on the depth chart, not QB play.
It's a little bit QB play.
The comparison has been made between Daniels and Duggan multiple times, so I'll add to that.
Once you subtract Daniels top 2 targets in Nabers and Boutte, the rest of the team got to share 98 yards receiving per game.
Once you subtract Duggans top 2 targets, the rest of the team shared 140 yards receiving per game.
TCU's top targets are leaving. LSU's top targets are returning. Yes, Duggan is drafting, but Daniels is staying, he's probably still going to start, and he is almost certainly at his ceiling as a passer.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:11 pm to TrouserTrout
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They’ll all be standing around watching JD run around while Bech will be catching pass after pass.
our top receiver caught more passes than TCU's
our #2 receiver caught more passes than TCU's
our #3 receiver caught only 7 fewer passes than TCU's
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:14 pm to Nutriaitch
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our top receiver caught more passes than TCU's
our #2 receiver caught more passes than TCU's
our #3 receiver caught only 7 fewer passes than TCU's
That's great if you're picking up an LSU receiver on the cheap in your college fantasy football ppr draft, but it doesn't mean anything in the real world.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:15 pm to Nutriaitch
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our top receiver caught more passes than TCU's our #2 receiver caught more passes than TCU's our #3 receiver caught only 7 fewer passes than TCU's
Don’t bring facts into this. It hurts their feelings and causes major cognitive dissonance in them.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:19 pm to wadewilson
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That's great if you're picking up an LSU receiver on the cheap in your college fantasy football ppr draft, but it doesn't mean anything in the real world.
the guy i replied to said that at TCU he would "catch pass after pass after pass"
this is showing that being one of Daniels top targets had you catching more "pass after pass after pass" than Duggan's top target.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:21 pm to wadewilson
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Howard just wants a chance to win it. So does Nuss. There should be an open competition again in 2023. At this point, you just have to trust that Kelly will offer that.
No reason to assume otherwise.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:25 pm to Stevo
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Poor kids don't transfer because they're not playing? That's your argument?
I think he means he’s been playing in “daddy ball” leagues where the rich daddy’s buy their sons playing time on teams to make them feel like big boys and that these kids end up thinking they are better than they actually are because of it. It’s the ultimate participation trophy without calling it a participation trophy.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:31 pm to wadewilson
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Once you subtract Daniels top 2 targets in Nabers and Boutte, the rest of the team got to share 98 yards receiving per game.
Once you subtract Duggans top 2 targets, the rest of the team shared 140 yards receiving per game.
LSU had 7 players with 20+ catches.
TCU had 5 players with 20+ catches.
LSU had 7 players with 200+ yards on the season.
TCU had 6 players with 200+ yards on the season.
LSU had more passing attempts than TCU did.
TCU had more rushing attempts than LSU did.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:32 pm to Gus007
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I believe Max is injured. However the true freshman who replaced him, beat us, and looked a hell of a lot better than the four year starter on the other team.
ROFLMFAO
THeir running back beat us, not their QB. That running back ran up and down the field on us.
Their QB was not statistically significantly better than JD in that game and three way less times because he didn’t have to thanks to their RB.
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