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re: Batting: Sanchez's Fault or Lack of Talent?
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:46 pm to Cajun Revolution
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:46 pm to Cajun Revolution
Javi's fault
The hitters don't know how to work counts. It's like they aren't going over basic situations. We swing at too many not great pitches on 2-1 and things like that.
The hitters don't know how to work counts. It's like they aren't going over basic situations. We swing at too many not great pitches on 2-1 and things like that.
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:46 pm to Cajun Revolution
Javi and Mainieri are one. If one has fricked up they both have fricked up
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:47 pm to Joe Joe Joe
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It is both. And while I'm not trying to pile on Sanchez, he is also the recruiting coordinator who, for the past 3 years, has identified and recruited the talent.
Sanchez is not, nor has he ever been, the recruiting coordinator.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:48 pm to Squeeze
Not saying that solves everything, but our approach at the plate definitely sucks. We have issues identifying pitches early which certainly makes hitting a bit more difficult.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:48 pm to MOT
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A lot of people knew before the season that pitching and defense would have to carry the team. All you can ask for is that they take a solid approach and be good situational hitters, and they've done that.
I think you can make the case that hitters have not had good approaches in this series. Today the pitcher is noticeably struggling in the 6th and we proceed to swing at first pitches for the last two outs and then go down in the 7th on like 6 pitches. We get pitched outside and try to pull the ball rolling over into a million routine grounders. At some point the coaches have to be noticing this and making some changes. It would be one thing to be hitting the ball well but at people or facing a Stratton type who is striking out a ton of guys but that isn't happening right now.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:51 pm to TigerDog83
That pitcher yesterday was garbage. LSU should have tore him a new butthole. The guy today pitched a decent game but LSU of 2008, 2009 or even 2010 would have put at least 5 or 6 runs up on that guy.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:52 pm to TigerDog83
If you want to break down specific ABs, innings, and series you will find fault with every lineup and every hitting instructor in the history of the sport.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:53 pm to MOT
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If you want to break down specific ABs, innings, and series you will find fault with every lineup and every hitting instructor in the history of the sport.
Sure, but when we had one opposite field hit the entire game (and probably not more than a couple the series) and the outside corner has been getting called like it has you really start to think that something isn't being done correctly in the approach. SB is hitting well to the middle and opposite field.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:56 pm to MOT
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Sanchez is not, nor has he ever been, the recruiting coordinator.
You're right. Was mistaking him with Grewe for some reason. Nonetheless, even if you overlook his role in recruiting, his ability to develop hitters once on campus has been disappointing considering LSU's program.
A little off topic, but was Sanchez even a good hitter in college? I realize Mainieri has taken more of a hands-on approach this year, but Sanchez still has some responsibility in teaching and handling our batters. Essentially, the question always comes back to one's qualifications for the job. We saw how flawed the Grewe hire was; the same elements are present with regards to Sanchez. This isn't a place where you get on-the-job training.
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:59 pm to Joe Joe Joe
Some of the best coaches aren't all-stars. Not that I'm taking up Helicopter Javi's cause or anything.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:03 pm to Joe Joe Joe
We have Rhymes shattering the school record for BA and Katz with 12 HRs. Is it their talent or does it have something to do with their approach?
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:04 pm to MOT
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Sanchez is not, nor has he ever been, the recruiting coordinator.
Then who since PM took 2 years off and maybe still does.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:05 pm to MOT
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Katz with 12 HRs
You act like that is alot. That is not that special at all especially since he has over 50 k's
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:07 pm to Macintosh
quote:English please
Then who since PM took 2 years off and maybe still does.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:08 pm to Cajun Revolution
Hitting has been weak all season. This is not a big surprise!!!
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:10 pm to LSU1018
quote:So it's Mainieri we need to blame for winning the SEC and having LSU as the #7 national seed? DAMN HIM!!!!
PM has WAY more to do with the talent on the field than Javi.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:10 pm to Cajun Revolution
It's simple .. Stop trying to work overall fricking pitch counts to the point that you are facing defensive counts at the plate and swinging at the pitcher's pitch ..
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:12 pm to MOT
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English please
Seems pretty simple to understand what I'm asking since I quoted what you said.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:12 pm to LSURussian
This was a ptcher's year, Russian .. Shame on our offense .. It is horrible ..
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:13 pm to MOT
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We have Rhymes shattering the school record for BA and Katz with 12 HRs. Is it their talent or does it have something to do with their approach?
I've consistently maintained that we don't have much hitting talent to begin with but that we also have some questionable coaching, in terms of plate discipline, approach, etc.
It's interesting that you chose Katz and Rhymes, whom I think most would agree, are our best hitters. I'd simply argue that their hitting is probably more naturally developed than having been developed by this coaching staff and, specifically, Sanchez.
Katz was a great high school hitter. And we all know what Rhyhmes did at LSU-E. Let's face it, you don't get a scholarship at LSU without being able to hit the ball. The majority, if not all, of our players were good/great high school hitters. I get that. And while I've stated many times that there are a number of factors that should be considered when discussing our offense, I think our approach and plate discipline has been terrible all year. Whether that's an indictment on Sanchez as the "hitting coach" or on Mainieri as the head coach, it doesn't really matter because it nonetheless reverts back to coaching.
So while our hitting talent certainly isn't what it was in 2009 or past years, I think, having closely watched this team all year, that whatever coaching they've received has only exacerbated our offensive weakness.
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