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re: Basketball next month

Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:09 am to
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As a diehard MBB fan, the state of the program is just sad to me. The rest of the SEC are making big strides in basketball and we’re just content being at the bottom of the barrel.

McMahon’s tenure has been a failure so far. No other way to put it. Woodward’s apathy is also troubling.


There were HUGE warning signs in year 1. That team should have never been THAT bad. Personally, I wanted LSU to be bold, can McMahon at the end of the season, and hire Chris Beard who was unexpectedly available. Not necessarily because I was certain McMahon's tenure was going to be awful. But because an unexpected opportunity arose to get a coach of Beard's quality that did not exist when McMahon was hired. Of course, that was always practically unlikely.

Realistically, LSU should have moved on after last season. Given McMahon's record in 3 seasons there was no logical reason to expect he'd ever be great at LSU. However, IMO, that was shelved to put all financial resources into this football season.

If at the end of this upcoming March LSU is, once again, nowhere in the discussion for a NCAA Tournament bid, then I can't see any remotely logical reason to keep McMahon.
Posted by Tigernomics
Member since Jan 2024
743 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:10 am to
You paying the buy out?
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45194 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:10 am to
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Yep, they’ll be created as necessary for whichever narrative they serve.
Exactly. If CoachMc didn’t stub his toe celebrating the New Year, we wouldn’t be 2-9 in the SEC right now.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45194 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:23 am to
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You’re a better fan than me. I’m going to not watch out of spite and wait for the “McMeh fired” announcement
I’ve watched almost every LSU MBB game I could for the last 30+ years. That includes this disastrous regime, the 5 Wade seasons, CJJ’s last season, the season before with LSU declining NIT with Ben Simmons. I could go on and on.

I don’t rage watch. I’m always hopeful, but also realistic and diehard.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66974 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:24 am to
The question is what’s going to be success this year. For normal fans it never changes, for mcmen it always changes but what is the threshold to rationalize keeping him?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32794 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:27 am to
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I’ve watched almost every LSU MBB game I could for the last 30+ years. That includes this disastrous regime, the 5 Wade seasons, CJJ’s last season, the season before with LSU declining NIT with Ben Simmons. I could go on and on.

Jeez. My life LSU basketball has been absolute dog shite outside of the Will Wade years. I like to put the disastrous Ben Simmons season out of my mind, though its easier to understand now that I know how shite and overrated he’s been in the NBA too
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:28 am to
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The question is what’s going to be success this year.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45194 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:37 am to
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Jeez. My life LSU basketball has been absolute dog shite outside of the Will Wade years.
My formulative years, LSU Basketball made 2 Final Fours and 2 Elite Eights.

I attended LSU with both CJ and Shaq, met both, although none of made the elite eight.

It’s also when you could just walk into TS 90-91 days and pick any seat, anywhere. Student, non student, didn’t matter.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3636 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:57 am to
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Ol Trent there is .511


At least Ol' Trent won the SEC his first year.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1443 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Also worth noting that they wanted a good coach.


Is he good though? There's not really a sample size of him being good without paying players. Also worth noting, he's so good he's not in the top 50 in annual salary. It's a good argument from you though.
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
2268 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:09 pm to
Just ready for the program to turn the page and have some sort of plan and support to actually be competitive in the SEC where seemingly EVERYONE else is.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12031 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:09 pm to
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Either you're an LSU MBB fan or you are not.


That's why. We are where we are, lets move forward. We have McMahon for this season at least, let's hope he either miraculously puts together a significant run that he can sustain for multiple seasons or so thoroughly poops the bed that we get a new coach (can I still hope for Billy Donovan?) for next season.


Well stated. Lets hope the ol head coach can figure something out this year that has alluded him the past 3 years.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45194 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Is he good though? There's not really a sample size of him being good without paying players. Also worth noting, he's so good he's not in the top 50 in annual salary. It's a good argument from you though.
Always the same bullshite.

Every coach was paying players... John Wooden had a handler paying players in the pyramid of success.

Coach Cal got 3 programs to the Final Four and on probation.

What's you're standard, high and mighty.

Wade lead 3 different programs to the NCAAT by the age of 40.

I dislike disingenuous people like you. You don't even mean what you say, nor do you take any ownership. Same old nonsense.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66974 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:15 pm to
More make believe nonsense and denial of reality. Always the same tards making the same ignorant, debunked statements
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34229 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Is he good though? There's not really a sample size of him being good without paying players.


Luckily he can continue to pay players.

He immediately produced historic levels of success at McNeese.
He had the highest winning % of any LSU over the last 50+ years
He has a career winning % of over .700
He has the 9th highest career winning % among active HCs who have coached 10+ years in D-1
In 11 years as a D-1 HC, at 4 different schools, he's led his team to the NCAA Tournament 7x (would be 8 if the 2020 tournament wasn't canceled)

Then again, I guess if you ignore all of that, he's probably not a very good coach.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38944 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:19 pm to
I'll be watching but don't have super high hopes. When LSU basketball is rolling its one of my favorite things as an LSU guy and can't wait to get back to that

There shouldn't be any excuses left if we don't make the tournament McChicken has to go
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 12:21 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45194 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Luckily he can continue to pay players.

He immediately produced historic levels of success at McNeese.
He had the highest winning % of any LSU over the last 50+ years
He has a career winning % of over .700
He has the 9th highest career winning % among active HCs who have coached 10+ years in D-1
In 11 years as a D-1 HC, at 4 different schools, he's led his team to the NCAA Tournament 7x (would be 8 if the 2020 tournament wasn't canceled)

Then again, I guess if you ignore all of that, he's probably not a very good coach.
Every MBB turns into a Wade thread and ends up justifying why Wade is a very good coach.

But true LSU MBB fans don't start with Wade, blah blah blah... we start with wanting to win. To me, it's just trying to distract us - and we take the bait because we care about LSU MBB.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38944 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:22 pm to
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The question is what’s going to be success this year. For normal fans it never changes, for mcmen it always changes but what is the threshold to rationalize keeping him?

It has to be NCAA tournament or bust. Just showing improvement and being a bubble team won't cut it in year 4
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
10194 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:24 pm to
Can we get the coaching changes board started for the mens basketball program?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66974 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:25 pm to
And it’s always the Wade haters who bring him up. It’s for a duel purpose, to avoid talking basketball or McMahon which they can’t and don’t want to since the facts make their narratives look silly and 2 as a signal to other like them to come and help create a group that offsets their poor arguments with numbers. Basically mob mentality.
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