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re: Baseball: New bats broken down

Posted on 2/4/11 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 6:11 pm to
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I would have to disagree. I don't think less homeruns will bring non-fans or casual fans to college baseball.


this. for baseball "purists" and pitcher safety this change is prudent and with purpose. I doubt seriously that less dingers, big innings and total run production will become a stimulant for the growth of college baseball. as much as some people demonize "the steroid era"...the excitement (right or wrong) created by McGuire, Sosa, Bonds, Canseco, and many others (college included) helped to resurrect and build the game of baseball. not saying it's right....just saying it is.
Posted by Dirt Dog
Member since Jan 2008
225 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 6:34 pm to
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Why did they get away from using wooden bats?


Aluminum bats were intruduced at the college level in 1974. Was viewed as a cost-saving alternative to wood. On average a $300 aluminum bat can last an entire season, while a $100 wooden bat can break at any time.

Plus the extra offense and scoring boost they produced was intended to add excitement and appeal to the game and bring in more fans.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288307 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

I don't think less homeruns will bring non-fans or casual fans to college baseball



Exactly. I dont think it is going to draw more fans. Silly to think that.

If anything, it will lose fans, IMO.


The only real positives I see are for pitcher safety, and for scouts to see the true power and ability some of these kids possess.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12565 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 6:51 pm to
So how many wooden bats would a team go through? What would be the increase in costs realistically?

They spend a lot of $ to pay a coach to do something we'd all love to do for a living, pay a ton for them uni's ans groundskeeping, so what woukd an extra 5k be? Or would it be a lot more?
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 7:01 pm to
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In High School, I think I was the only guy on the team that still used wooden bats. I loved the feel of the ball coming off.


this.
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

The sound....YES....The feel......You obviously never played in cold weather or had a 90+ MPH fastball run in on ya'.


this too....
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 7:05 pm to
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My first varsity game was played in a light snowfall. So yeah..I have. Love the wooden bat.


our first month of outdoor practice in '64 was on a plowed parking lot with a 10' snowbank as a backstop. frickn' brutal....but we went undefeated that yr so I guess it was worth it.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14912 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 8:28 pm to
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most people want to see a higher scoring game rather than a 1-0 pitchers duel


This is true but never lose sight of the fact that people are stupid.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
54838 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

quote:
I don't think less homeruns will bring non-fans or casual fans to college baseball



Exactly. I dont think it is going to draw more fans. Silly to think that.

If anything, it will lose fans, IMO.


Initially possibly (probably). But there are some people, baseball "purists", that look down on the college game because of the metal bats. If the college game is more like MLB and people still don't show up, then f em. Maybe I am being optimistic, but I think the fan impact is being overestimated. Mainieri is clearly worried about it though.

Lester, the disturbance in the force on Doescher notwithstanding, the offer of tickets at the Box is still, and always will be, open.

Posted by tigertalkster
Member since Dec 2009
644 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 9:10 pm to
I think it can be entertaining will be more teams playing like cal state Fullerton and Texas and think speed and more of the little things will be far more important
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 10:34 pm to
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FWIW most people want to see a higher scoring game rather than a 1-0 pitchers duel


True, but sad.
Posted by LSUBASEBALL06
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
3407 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 10:36 pm to
Louisiana will also go to BBCOR bats next season for high school. Not this season coming up, but the 2012 season.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78573 posts
Posted on 2/5/11 at 1:33 am to
I don't like this

I don't like MLB, I like college baseball, don't try to make college baseball like MLB. The old bats of the 90's were ridiculous, we all know that, but they found they happy the median!!! I don't think it's good for the game or its popularity or growth.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the previous bats.
This post was edited on 2/5/11 at 1:35 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288307 posts
Posted on 2/5/11 at 1:58 am to
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Initially possibly (probably). But there are some people, baseball "purists", that look down on the college game because of the metal bats. If the college game is more like MLB and people still don't show up, then f em. Maybe I am being optimistic, but I think the fan impact is being overestimated. Mainieri is clearly worried about it though.


we will see. It just always seems that offense sells...In just about every sport.

quote:

Lester, the disturbance in the force on Doescher notwithstanding, the offer of tickets at the Box is still, and always will be, open.




I try and stay as far away from that as possible

but Im going to need to take you up on that one of these days. Hopefully i can make it out sometime this season. you know i appreciate the offer
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295787 posts
Posted on 2/5/11 at 2:02 am to

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Cool. I'm guessing you didn't see a heater on the fists......or you were a pitcher.


Had many. We had two pitchers on our team that threw 88-90. Grew up with wooden bats and stuck with them through HS.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16376 posts
Posted on 2/5/11 at 7:45 am to
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I will bet that 9 out of 12 SEC programs will have more baseball attendance than basketball attendance within 10-15 years.


That of course remains to be seen. Will fans enjoy more singles and bunts and 1-0 games is the question. Now I see you can hit the dinger with the bat but less of them and will it cause us to go back to the 60's and 70's in baseball interest?
Posted by BillysGoat
Lafourche
Member since Nov 2007
11 posts
Posted on 2/5/11 at 9:05 am to
I would have to say it is a safety issue more than anything. I watch hundreds and hundreds of baseball games a year. Last year in this area alone there were several pitchers hit in the head with the speed of baseball coming off of the composite bats. Pitcher from Catholic high was in ICU for several days after taking a line drive in the head, I witnessed a 13 year old in a tournament in Shreveport take a line drive to the forehead. Crushed his forehead and he was taken out in an ambulance. It used to be that pros were just too big and strong but now the colleges, high school and youth players are all very big and strong. Putting a composite bat in their hands is flat out dangerous.
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