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re: Back to back road games

Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:08 am to
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8251 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:08 am to
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Wegmans coming out party


This phrase has a totally different meaning when you are discussing aTm!
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16551 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:13 am to
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But I'd also say that I'd not choose to play Arkansas on the road after coming off a big win, where one often sees a let down, going to play a team coming of a bye with 2 weeks to prepare for me. I was very worried about that and we managed.

Hoping we can be a trend buster Saturday as well.

We had gone something like the last 4-5 games vs Arkansas being decided by 3 points. A 34-10 final later and it looks like this team doesn't care about trends or historical precedent.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16414 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:20 am to
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You may be right, but Brian Kelly's past also shows he can't win the big game either



This isn't that big of a game. Kelly wins this type of game all the time. Ole miss this year, Bama in '22 (that game was bigger).

Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7162 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:52 am to
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In the SEC, playing back to back road games usually does not favor those teams.


True, but this includes the entirety of the SEC. Including Vandy, MSU, etc. And trends are simply trends. They don’t have specific influence on individual games.

How do the top teams fair?
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6175 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:00 am to
It is not just the SEC. This is something that gamblers look at but it has more to do with covering the spread. The road team does loose about 60% of the time and does not cover the spread about 80%, but they are usually the favored when the spread is the issue.
Posted by MrKnowItAll
Strop City
Member since Mar 2007
6292 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:03 am to
If LSU can hold Texas A&M to 21 points and LSU scores 24 points..... then LSU wins.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18304 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:17 am to
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17896 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:26 am to
quote:

You may be right, but Brian Kelly's past also shows he can't win the big game either



This isn't that big of a game. Kelly wins this type of game all the time. Ole miss this year, Bama in '22 (that game was bigger).



He also beat LSU twice in Bowl games - over 2 coaches who won national titles over here, but not sure if those count as big games?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60773 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:31 am to
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right, but Brian Kelly's past also shows he can't win the big game either.
2 weeks ago.
Posted by TigerDude80
METRY
Member since Nov 2007
1904 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:35 am to
Posted by chimneylooker
Nashville
Member since Sep 2011
592 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:39 am to
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Brian Kelly's past also shows he can't win the big game either


The only reason people think this is because when he does win a big game the narrative changed that it wasn't really a big game. When he loses then people pump their chest saying he can't win a big one. It's a tired narrative that isn't true.
Posted by Chadwick
Member since Aug 2011
5397 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:40 am to
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Now look at who has won the home game in the past, what, 7 years?


Ok. Now look at the overall record between the two. I mean, we can do this all day but what's the point?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7162 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:50 am to
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Now look at who has won the home game in the past, what, 7 years?


And the last 4 games vs. Arkansas were decided by 3 points. 5 of the last 6 by 7 or less.

What bearing did that have on the game this year? None. Each season is generally independent of the one that preceded it.

Is LSU at a larger disadvantage this week because they won on the road last week?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13565 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:53 am to
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Wegmans coming out party was against lsu.


Against a historically bad defense?? Okay





That has nothing to do with this week’s game

Where do some of yall pull this shite from?
Posted by geauxtigers810
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2004
580 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 9:03 am to
Since 2008, LSU played back to back conference road games (without a bye) in 7 seasons. They are 6-1 in those 2nd games and the only loss was in the COVID season.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17896 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 12:16 pm to
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Since 2008, LSU played back to back conference road games (without a bye) in 7 seasons. They are 6-1 in those 2nd games and the only loss was in the COVID season.


Well that certainly changes this narrative don't it?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7162 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 12:28 pm to
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ell that certainly changes this narrative don't it?


Not really as it doesn’t account for the times they lost the first game.

But the larger point remains that historical trends don’t have any impact on future events. It’s also not really revolutionary to say that winning on the road is hard.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7564 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 12:30 pm to
Home team usually wins this series.
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1669 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 12:43 pm to
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Since 2008, LSU played back to back conference road games (without a bye) in 7 seasons. They are 6-1 in those 2nd games and the only loss was in the COVID season.


Saved me the research.

So yes, the SEC as a whole is bad in the second game of back to back road games, but LSU (and i would wager Alabama and Georgia as well) have been solid in those games.

Geaux Tigers
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4153 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 12:51 pm to
Of the 70 teams having to play back to back road conference games, only 8 of them were able to win both games.
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