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Auburn player who did an obvious soccer flop...

Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:45 am
Posted by Tomatocantender
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:45 am
Someone smarter than I please tell me how can the NCAA clean up this crap. It was egregious and obvious, and CBK was losing his shite with the head ref (rightfully so).

I know we run the risk of that one in a thousand rare chance that it's a legitimate delayed injury, but 99.9% of these are ruining the game as evidenced last Sat night by Auburn. Is there some type of instant replay that the refs can use and the repercussions is similar to targeting? Just trying to think this through, and I can honestly say I don't recall LSU ever stooping down to this level...making it so obvious of a fake injury.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:46 am to
It seems like Auburn has always been notorious for doing this too.
Posted by covlatiger
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:50 am to
I believe it was Jamal Adams (?) who did an epic flop in a game a few years ago - think he was on the sidelines after tackling someone, got pushed, and flopped. Drew the penalty on the opposing player.
Posted by Tomatocantender
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:52 am to
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I believe it was Jamal Adams (?) who did an epic flop in a game a few years ago


I knew if I said "soccer flop" then it would lead someone to think I meant the famous thing that Jamal did against the Florida guy and got us a cheap 15 yards (which was brilliant btw by Jamal, showed his incredible football IQ). My apologies, I meant the obvious fake injury by yourself, not the Jamal faking like the shove was a punch. The fake injury that is designed to stop the momentum of the offense.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:57 am to
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It seems like Auburn has always been notorious for doing this too.


Last season, Ole Miss had “hurt” players every time a team had a drive going past mid-field. It was like clockwork.

I don’t think there is any way to detect if a player is truly hurt or not….a cramp is easy to fake. Maybe the “hurt” player has to sit out the entire possession instead of one play. ?????
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 7:59 am
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:58 am to
Yes, flopping to get a personal foul (like basketball) vs a flop to stop the offense or change out personnel when you are out of time outs are 2 different things.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:59 am to
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I don’t think there is any way to detect if a player is truly hurt or not….a cramp is easy to fake.


At least our student section won’t put up with it. They were chanting “he’s a p*ssy” against Miss St & the player was actually injured. Lol
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35362 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:01 am to
At that point it was the first one of the game so the refs don't want to make a bad call. If it happens repeatedly then it's a problem.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12863 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:02 am to
They can implement a rule that requires a player to sit out the rest of the series if the game has to stop because of a possible injury.

Wasn’t this discussed as a rule to be implemented in recent years?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:03 am to
I imagine our defensive players will be told to go down if they have the slightest injury saturday...just saying
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 8:04 am
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27768 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:14 am to
I’m sure there are complete fake injuries sometimes, but most of the time players are told that if they have anything minor to stay down instead of trying to limp or hobble off and run a different player on while everyone is lining up for the next play.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:12 am to
Yes I know Ole Miss fakes injuries often. It is a symptom of the coach imo. Some people are ok with exploiting every advantage you can take in the game. I remember last season I think Kiffin was clearly motioning for one of his players to go down as he was running off the field to get an extra TO for his defense. I am sure someone on the AU sideline told that player to fall after the Emery play knowing they had no timeouts. LSU did it under O a few times but not egregiously. Frustrating for fans and a pretty shitty move but not much to be done about it I can see.
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:15 am to
More than 3 injury timeouts in a half result in a time out used. If no time outs it’s a 5 yard penalty.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56365 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Someone smarter than I please tell me how can the NCAA clean up this crap. It was egregious and obvious, and CBK was losing his shite with the head ref (rightfully so).

I know we run the risk of that one in a thousand rare chance that it's a legitimate delayed injury, but 99.9% of these are ruining the game as evidenced last Sat night by Auburn. Is there some type of instant replay that the refs can use and the repercussions is similar to targeting? Just trying to think this through, and I can honestly say I don't recall LSU ever stooping down to this level...making it so obvious of a fake injury.



It's a rational response to offensive coaches trying to speed up to the point where defenses can't substitute.

Posted by geauxtreauxjans
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Member since Oct 2005
562 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:23 am to
Any "injured" player should sit out the remainder of the possession AND the next possession. Want to avoid a player having to sit out, take a time out when he gets "injured" so that he can return immediately. If you start eating away at the time outs or having key players on the bench because of their "injury", maybe this might put a stop to some of this bullshite
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:23 am to
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8149 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:25 am to
quote:

It's a rational response to offensive coaches trying to speed up to the point where defenses can't substitute.


This is dumb, because it’s in the rules: if the offense subs, the defense can sub too, and they’ll hold off on snapping the ball in order to let them
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8708 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:29 am to
AUB soccer flop from several years ago

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:32 am to
Coaches have to decide to get that shite out of the game. There is no way officiating can control that. It has to be shunned and punished by coaches.

It won't though.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14779 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:33 am to
quote:

It's a rational response to offensive coaches trying to speed up to the point where defenses can't substitute.


In order for the D to be unable to sub, the O can’t sub either. So not rational.

Also, the obvious first step is to charge a timeout if they have any.
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