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re: Athlon’s ranking of 130 college football head coaches

Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48072 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:10 am to
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Sounds familiar.


who else is doing it?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48072 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:11 am to
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You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. O has earned the job. Slinging mud at him at this point just makes you look like a fool. Well, come to think of it... I guess if the shoe fits...



you're too stupid to realize that objective facts isnt slinging mud. it's called reality.

anything but blind loyalty to a coach that bashed lsu every chance he could before coming to lsu and has won frick all in terms of titles,is bashing.





Facts about Ed Orgeron's tenure at lsu

-in 2017 he had the 2nd most nfl draft picks in cfb and lost 4 games. nfl qb, 2 nfl rbs,nfl olineman,nfl te, a defense littered with future NFL players
- every year his offenses have been less productive than 2 of the last 3 miles offenses
- he has the 1st ooc home since 2002
- he has played 7 p5 programs that were good enough to lose 5 or more games. WE ARE 2-5 IN THOSE GAMES.
- his recruiting at lsu has averaged out as the 5th best classes in the sec
- he hasnt had a lead against Bama for a single second in 3 tries
- every single reputable talent site says lsu was one of the top 8 most talented teams in cfb in both 2017 and 2018.

the above things are facts and are in no way bashing. its called reality.

if you have a problem with the above facts, take it up with O.
the only people using opinions are O fanatics sayung the program is on the rise or that O was left with no talent or was left a mess.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 10:21 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48072 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:13 am to
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It’s amusing, annoying and sad all at same time. 
Encouraging part for the rest of us is it’s onky going to get worse for them. 
Can’t wait.


it only gets worse if O wins a title.
perma ban bet that o doesnt win the sec title in the next 2 years?

since you're so confident in O lets agree on that perma ban bet.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
71096 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:17 am to
He’s better than 51 on recruiting alone.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:20 am to
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who else is doing it?


Oh...that's a not too subtle reference to people bringing up Troy...as if that would be the only game in Oregon's resume to use to make the point.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48072 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:23 am to
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He’s better than 51 on recruiting alone.


agreed
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51211 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:22 am to
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RB
Clyde Edwards-Helaire - CLM & Eaux


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WR-Y
Justin Jefferson JR - Eaux




First Cut is telling us Orgeron can't be blamed for the busts from the 2017 class, but you're giving him credit for all of the good players from it? Either Orgeron was shackled to this class or he wasn't. You need to make up your minds.

This is why you people aren't taken seriously. Just FYI.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4951 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:41 am to
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So in the SEC CEO is #8 and Gus is #5. O is 2-0 vs Gus and been the underdog both gam


DiNardo beat Saban straight up. Who is the better coach? It’s called sample size.

Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12515 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:29 pm to
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Houston's offense was better? He gained like 13 first downs and 203 yards in a loss to SMU who was a 27 point dog. I guess that is better, right? 
So you think it's fair to judge a coach's ability off of one bad game? I'll play by those rules. Explain to me how you can call Herman a bad coach because he lost ONE bad game against a team IN HIS conference, but Coach O isn't a bad coach when he lost at home to an non P5 team?

I know it drives you crazy, but Herman's coaching resume was and still is sooo much better than Coach O's.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:38 pm to


You really need a life bro.
Seriously.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 7:44 am to
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Clyde Edwards-Helaire - CLM & Eaux


quote:

Justin Jefferson JR - Eaux


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First Cut is telling us Orgeron can't be blamed for the busts from the 2017 class


Jefferson was a late addition to the 2017 class. He committed in late June of 2017, almost a year after Miles' departure.

CEH was Miles' commit.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:50 am to
O didn’t have a choice on taking less money because he wasn’t exactly a hot commodity. Miles gets credit for hiring Aranda. O does credit for bringing in Burrow and I do think things are trending up right now but this year will tell all. You are only as good as your record says you are and right now LSU is still averaging 3 losses a year under him.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20228 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:57 am to
Based on this list, I would put him around 25-30 between Dino and Bronco.
Posted by geauxrugby
Tulsa, OK
Member since Jul 2012
214 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:23 am to
Our defensive S&P+ ratings for Aranda’s 3 years are as follows: #5 in 2018, #8 in 2017 and #2 in 2017. So, I’d say he’s one of the top DC’s in the country!
Let’s see how he does this year with the return of so many key defensive players.
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