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re: Athlon SEC QB Rankings
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:51 pm to DRock88
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:51 pm to DRock88
He should be top 3. Somewhere on par with Fromm and Mond. He came on at the end of the year. Most of the offensive line will return and the wide receivers will be back. I think he is a good quarterback and will have a mettenberger year 1 to 2 jump. Get ready for some non offensive offense tiger fans!
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:14 pm to DRock88
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No. 4 - Feleipe Franks, Florida
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:23 pm to DRock88
Joe Burrow next Tommie brady
Wright this down.
I think there was a song write this down.
Lol
Wright this down.
I think there was a song write this down.
Lol
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:37 pm to DRock88
Franks made HUGE strides in year 1 under Mullen. Not sure why everyone is laughing at him, he had a solid season.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:43 pm to DRock88
I might be a homer, but I'd take Burrow ahead of all but Tua and maybe Fromm (I really wasn't impressed with him against us).
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:47 pm to TheCaterpillar
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You can certainly argue with Franks
If you wanted to I guess.
Burrow was the #50 ranked passer, Franks was #52.
Franks threw for 2,457 yards 24 TD and 6 INT, completing 58.4% of his passes on 322 throws. He ran for 350 yards and 7 TD and his team finished 10-3 with a head to head win over LSU.
Burrow threw for 2,894 yards 16 TD and 5 INT, completing 57.8% of his passes on 379 throws. He ran for 399 yards and 7 T, finishing 10-3 with a loss to Franks' UF team.
Burrow has him beat on yardage, but he also threw a lot more passes. Franks has 8 more TD passes and only one more INT. Objectively, Burrow is not clearly better and it is certainly arguable that Franks could perform better than him this year, especially considering that Mullen is his head coach.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:50 pm to Alt26
Burrow stats were accumlated against a much more difficult schedule He also had the 107th offensive line out of about 120. Anyway. I would take Burrow over any of them except Tua.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:55 pm to mhc4tigers
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Burrow stats were accumlated against a much more difficult schedule
That's simply not true. LSU was ranked #4 in strength of schedule. Bama was 1 and UGA was 2. A&M, Miss State and Auburn immediately followed LSU at 5, 6, 7.
And when you break down Burrow's stats, the vast majority came against pitiful defenses. He threw a total of 1 TD in five games against top 30 defenses.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:10 pm to Damone
What was Florida’s SOS
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:12 pm to jimbeam
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:13 pm to Damone
quote:
Burrow was the #50 ranked passer, Franks was #52.
I'd take Burrow this year over Franks, any game.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:14 pm to Damone
I think Burrow's better than Franks but it's not an iron-clad case.
I think people are including the progression that they expect Burrow to make this year when comparing them, not comparing them as they performed last season.
I think people are including the progression that they expect Burrow to make this year when comparing them, not comparing them as they performed last season.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:16 pm to Goldrush25
I can get onboard with that, I think they are close to one another. One caveat: I think Burrow would be putting up much better numbers in a Dan Mullen offense.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:18 pm to Nissanmaxima
I wouldn’t trade Burrow for Franks,Mond,or Bryant. PERIOD
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:18 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:And people wonder why fans wanted Jimbo or Mullen over Coach O. Cleary they can take a less talented QB and make him perform better. Franks was trash the year before Mullen got there. Then in less than one year he had him out performing Burrow.
Mond and Franks are getting a lot of benefit of doubt from having true QB gurus coaching them.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:19 pm to DRock88
Bryant too high.
Burrow and Bentley should be higher.
Neal will be much higher by the end of the season, and even higher had he gone somewhere other than Vandy.
Burrow and Bentley should be higher.
Neal will be much higher by the end of the season, and even higher had he gone somewhere other than Vandy.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I'd agree. I'd also take a Mullen offense over Ensminger's, any game.
I'd take Burrow this year over Franks, any game.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:23 pm to DRock88
I'll also bring this up about franks:
None of this seems to be taking into account OL which can vastly affect QB play.
Franks' OL last year was really quite good. This year it seems to be a clear weak point for UF coming up. Our OL play last year was pretty terrible, so was Tennessee's for Guarantano.
Look at some of the statistically best QBs in the SEC last year and how their OLs rated vs. some of the lesser ones.
OL Rankings are nationally from football outsiders
1. Tua - 199.44 QB Rating, OL #14 in sack rate, Top 10 in almost all run categories
2. Fromm - 171.22 QB Rating, OL #45 in sack rate, Top 15 in most most run categories
3. Jake Bentley - 146.25 QB Rating, OL #31 in sack rate, OL pretty average overall in run game
4. Feleipe Franks - 143.34 QB Rating, OL #23 in sack rate, Top 20 in most run categories
5. Jarrett Guarantano - 140.98 QB Rating, OL #106 in sack rate, horrible across the board in run categories [VERY impressive performance by Guarantano considering this]
6. Kellen Mond - 134.8 QB Rating, OL #97 in sack rate, average across the board in run categories
7. Joe Burrow - 133.21 QB Rating, OL #101 in sack rate, mixed bag in run categories (some pretty bad, some decent)
OL can have a big impact on QB performance. Franks had a very cushy OL he could operate behind I highly doubt he gets this year.
None of this seems to be taking into account OL which can vastly affect QB play.
Franks' OL last year was really quite good. This year it seems to be a clear weak point for UF coming up. Our OL play last year was pretty terrible, so was Tennessee's for Guarantano.
Look at some of the statistically best QBs in the SEC last year and how their OLs rated vs. some of the lesser ones.
OL Rankings are nationally from football outsiders
1. Tua - 199.44 QB Rating, OL #14 in sack rate, Top 10 in almost all run categories
2. Fromm - 171.22 QB Rating, OL #45 in sack rate, Top 15 in most most run categories
3. Jake Bentley - 146.25 QB Rating, OL #31 in sack rate, OL pretty average overall in run game
4. Feleipe Franks - 143.34 QB Rating, OL #23 in sack rate, Top 20 in most run categories
5. Jarrett Guarantano - 140.98 QB Rating, OL #106 in sack rate, horrible across the board in run categories [VERY impressive performance by Guarantano considering this]
6. Kellen Mond - 134.8 QB Rating, OL #97 in sack rate, average across the board in run categories
7. Joe Burrow - 133.21 QB Rating, OL #101 in sack rate, mixed bag in run categories (some pretty bad, some decent)
OL can have a big impact on QB performance. Franks had a very cushy OL he could operate behind I highly doubt he gets this year.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:31 pm to DRock88
I cant argue with the list. This league has really upgraded at the QB position.
But, I wouldnt trade Burrow for any of them.
PS
Now with 3 or 4 of them, if their school threw in a starting Left Tackle, we may chat briefly.
But, I wouldnt trade Burrow for any of them.
PS
Now with 3 or 4 of them, if their school threw in a starting Left Tackle, we may chat briefly.
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