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re: Athlon Predicts LSU's Wins and Losses

Posted on 6/9/18 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12624 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 6:27 pm to
They're not proven to be a better defense than the previous year.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17427 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 6:35 pm to
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You're mistaking a fact on someone returning for a fact that means the defense will be better

Yep.

Look, I think this defense could be awesome, but I don't know that they will be, and nobody else does.

20 years ago, we entered the season ranked #7 and we ended up with 7 losses. Nothing is certain in June.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9309 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 10:15 pm to
The Miss State game last year was the perfect storm for LSU. On the road with injuries and no depth. Our STs was terrible in the loss to Troy and ND. If we have a decent STs in those two games, LSU wins.

If LSU had the depth it will have this year against Miss State, we would have beat them. I think we will likely lose to Bama and GA but even those two games will be close.

I know we have many question marks but this LSU team will be one of the toughest teams we've seen in a long time IMO. Then we will finally have depth on the LOS. Our WRs are very talented and now that we have a veteran QB that is accurate, I think it changes the game for LSU in 2018.

Now if we didn't have Burrow I could see many loses or games that could go either way depending on whether our QB would play well. I just think this guy will be solid for LSU and won't be rattled so easily. Our run game will be better than people think. Fournettes little bro is also a pretty good back IMO.

This team will surprise folks this year. I think we will beat Miami by a good margin if they can get it all together before the season starts. If we are learning on the go then we will have some close games to start the year and then finish strong. Auburn, GA and Bama scare me most. Auburn bc of the payback and in their backyard. The other two simply bc they're talented as frick. I think we whip State this year. I don't see FL improving all that much.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19734 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 11:01 pm to
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fromm looked like shite in their spring game.
I live in Atlanta and watched the UGA spring game. This is correct, Fromm didn't look good.
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their offense is going to struggle.
doubtful. Justin Fields looked very good in the spring game. Fromm's days may be numbered.
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LSU will beat UGA
I hope so, but UGA's recruiting has been ridiculous. At least we get them at home, but getting a W will be very tough.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 1:51 am to
I don't know what is wrong with this board, but it is as anti-LSU as I have seen in quite some time.

LSU isn't losing to Miami or Texas AM. They aren't losing to Moo St either.

Auburn and Alabama are the two only real loss probabilities.

And, Georgia is taking a step back this season, period.

Maybe 2 losses this year. May beat Bama if burrow is as good as we think he will be.
This post was edited on 6/10/18 at 1:58 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31950 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 1:58 am to
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LSU isn't losing to Miami


I don't know. It's a toss up to me. There's something about this game that makes me uneasy.


I hated playing UGA. They always played us hard. Now Richt is at his alma mater and like the guy or not, he's a good coach. He'll have them ready.

I want to see us win, of course, but I don't know about that game. On the flip side, I do like knowing that we have Burrow and our defense should be solid. Having Aranda makes me feel better too.

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They aren't losing to Moo St either.



We thought this last year and it was the worst shellacking in series history. And the Troy game happened.

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Georgia is taking aa back art this season, period.



I wouldn't bet on it. Fromm is really good. And they're loaded at RB, even with the loss of Chubb and Michel.


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Maybe 2 losses this year


I'm praying you're right.
This post was edited on 6/10/18 at 2:00 am
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19734 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 2:07 am to
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I don't know what is wrong with this board, but it is as realistic as I have seen in quite some time.
FIFY
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32514 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 2:30 am to
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aying someone returns for a second season doesnt mean they're going to be better. That's not a fact that they will be better. Taylor, Phillips, chaisson, Vincent at the nickle or corner and whether its Alexander or someone else at the other corner opposite greedy are unknown on how they will perform. You're mistaking a fact on someone returning for a fact that means the defense will be better when we lose 2 corners who played a lot of ball the other middle linebacker 2 outside linebackers and 2 interior defensive lineman.


Greedy was unproven this time last year too

Lacouture, Donnie A, Herron and Gilmore are not significant losses. Hell none of them even got drafted.

Corey Thompson had a decent year but nothing earth shattering and Key had 1 dominant game all season.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12624 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 8:42 am to
You're making my point for me. They could be great, but they could be bad. Its unknown. It's not a given that the defense is gonna be better cause they return for another year.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29625 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 9:46 am to
Agree with Athlon regardless of the QB. Unproven RBs, OLine, receivers. Where is the scoring going to come from and then there is the defensive backfield. We all know those teams that are able to complete those short passes wear out a defense and if these guys can’t press because of their lack of ball skills, hips and strength then, the entire defense will be compromised.
Now go to the roster and see how many Mobil QBs there are and spread concepts they will face this season.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33887 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 10:32 am to
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I don't know what is wrong with this board, but it is as anti-LSU as I have seen in quite some time.


I don't know how acknowledging how difficult this year's scchedule is equates to being anti-LSU. Do you want real opinions or sunshine pumping?
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2034 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 12:01 pm to
before JB
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216119 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 12:48 pm to
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Pitt was a very strong team last year





Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 1:42 pm to
Do you think my opinions are baseless?

I see a staff that has worked hard, tirelessly to correct problems inherited. They aren't resting, but doing all they can to make us a contender. Coach O though not perfect by any stretch is putting together an offense that will compete and the defense is lit.

Getting burrow sold to me that they are taking their jobs and the most prestigious job in LA seriously.

Now, if Burrow is capable of doing what we think with all the athletes around him with a seasoned offensive line, I reasonably believe this team can compete with anyone and best anyone.

The defense will be incredible in the front end 4 and hopefully we over perform at DB. I like our chances this year and believe we will surprise even the most pessimistic fans.
Posted by timwndabyu
Member since Jul 2017
15 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 1:50 pm to
I see LSU beating miami,[they are no better then LSU],uga is at homw[could go either way],bama it is about time for LSU to win that one,msu[i do not see us losing to them,florida maybe,win the cupcakes games,I say,9-3,defense is going to be great,
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32514 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 1:58 pm to
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They're not proven to be a better defense than the previous year.


No team is PROVEN to be better than last year at this point
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17427 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 1:58 pm to
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Getting burrow sold to me that they are taking their jobs and the most prestigious job in LA seriously.

Are you saying you questioned whether or not they took their jobs seriously before this? Good God, some of you act like we hired a bunch of children to lead this program.

"They're trying really hard, guys." Well, they better fricking be.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 2:03 pm to
Brennan started with Les.

As did Narcisse. Maybe they work out, maybe not.

Be patient, this year is going to be litty.
Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3378 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 2:18 pm to
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Do you think my opinions are baseless?


I dont think anyone is devaluing your opinion, they are only pointing out that an opinion is all that it is. You say “ I see a staff that has worked hard”. What does that translate to in on-the-field results? Not one person on this board can look forward in time and know, for a fact, what this offense or defense is capable of. You can take a shot at a prediction and “hope and pray” that your guess is correct. But, to state wins and losses as absolutes? I’m hoping for the best, but I’ll take the patient approach and evaluate after I see some actual live football against a team in a different color jersey. Remember, the opponent’s staffs/teams are working hard as well.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 2:39 pm to
I second all you say within the body of work, but I also see others here assuring me that we will do no better than 8-4.

They fail to acknowledge how the staff has revamped the offensive line, stacked the receiver position, and went out and got the best graduate transfer QB on the market. There should be a level of optimism to counter the pessimism.

You are right though, I don't know for certain if we will defeat Miami, Georgia, Texas AM, or even Mississippi St. But, I do believe we are better equipped to do so now than at the end of the season. Why? Burrow. Kid has all the tools to be great. I hope the players accept him and gravitate to his leadership of he is so inclined to become one. Brennan and Narcisse should not transfer whatsoever, but compete and allow themselves this opportunity to better themselves these next two years in Ensmingers system. Burrow likely understands concepts offensively way more than either Brennan or Narcisse.

I understand the pessimism, but optimism is as real.
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