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re: At what point do we stop taking it up the tailpipe and at least explore options?
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:16 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:16 pm to Adam Banks
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The florida game puts us at a significant disadvantage compared to our biggest competitor in the West before a single team takes the field.
This is a fact.
Since the SEC expansion and divisional split, we have played Florida 28 times. We are 11-17 in those games. since 2000 when we stopped sucking, we have gone 10-9 against Florida.
In other words, we got killed when we were terrible, but have only gone just above .500 since entering what we like to call our Golden age winning two titles and playing for a third. I'd say that has made for a pretty fricking tough road to hoe...
BAMA and TENN have played 28 times since the expansion, and BAMA leads that series 17-9-1. This one has been streakier, with TENN winning 10 of 16 between 1991 and 2006. Since then? BAMA has won 12 straight.
Essentially we have a permanent opponent that we are lucky to split with, and BAMA has a cupcake...and both count as conference games.
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:17 pm to SeanLSU
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Our officiating (I know many won't agree) has actually been evaluated by neutral third parties and over the course of a full season grades out as the best officiating among the Power 5 conferences
I would love to see this report. Where did you see it again?
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:18 pm to Topwater Trout
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Georgia has been better than florida...is auburn crying?
They actually have cried about having to play UGA and Bama both on the road every other year.
But keep doing you
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:20 pm to Adam Banks
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Many people who did are going to have trouble getting in town for this game
These people either have to wake up early and drive in, or get home late. Or, get a hotel room for Friday night for an early game/Saturday night for a late game. It’s not any harder than normal.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:20 pm to Topwater Trout
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Georgia has been better than florida...is auburn crying?
I have no idea, but if they want to sacrifice their ability to compete for the SECW crown in order to keep their rivalry, that's their call. Their call ought not be so important so as to influence OUR ability to compete for the SECW crown.
They have the same situation as us...they've gone 11-17-1 with UGA since expansion. Apparently they like tradition more than conference titles...so be it.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:24 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Georgia has been better than florida...is auburn crying?
I have no idea, but if they want to sacrifice their ability to compete for the SECW crown in order to keep their rivalry, that's their call. Their call ought not be so important so as to influence OUR ability to compete for the SECW crown.
They have the same situation as us...they've gone 11-17-1 with UGA since expansion. Apparently they like tradition more than conference titles...so be it.
Its always funny to see the arguments from the oh so objective posters who try and ridicule this stuff. We have someone arguing for less championships because Bama wants to play TennesseePosted on 9/23/19 at 1:25 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Essentially we have a permanent opponent that we are lucky to split with, and BAMA has a cupcake...
Tennessee all time is a better program than LSU and UF. It’s not the SEC’s fault than Tennessee has been complete shite for the last 10ish years.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:26 pm to Adam Banks
Wa wa wa wa
So many of our fans are such pussies
All this capitulation over a kickoff time? fricks sake
So many of our fans are such pussies
All this capitulation over a kickoff time? fricks sake
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:31 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Apparently they like tradition more than conference titles...so be it.
Do you honestly think that AU hasn't tried to get that changed? Come on man!
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:32 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Again...rivalries are great. But, are they more important than the conference itself? Years ago OU and Nebraska was a damn incredible rivalry. when they split the Big 12 into divisions, they split up ending that season finally rivalry for the good of the conference. If these four teams want to continue playing each other, there are ways in order to do that which DO NOT require the remaining 10 teams to have permanent rivals with cross division opponents. Not only has it set up games which are unequal, but it sets up a situation where some teams almost never face each other. There is no reason why if you stay for 5 years at a school you ought not have a chance to play in every SEC program at least once.
I don't think Nebraska wanted that to happen. In many ways, Nebraska-OU rivalry being lost sort of set up the Big 12 to be on shaky ground from the start. Texas dictated the scheduling and did not want a permanent cross-over with OU and then have to play them again in the League title game, which is of course what they have now with the 1 and 2 top teams playing in the title game.
I agree about the fact that LSU will not go to say Knoxville again to around 2030. Add another league game and go to a 6-1-2 format and rotate the 2 every year and play so you play 2 teams in year 1 (e.g. Vandy-UGA and again in year 4, and switch home and away, etc).
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:33 pm to BayouBengals18
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Tennessee all time is a better program than LSU and UF
Very debatable. One national title since the 60s. I dont think anyone puts the Minnesota Gophers above LSU and UF.
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It’s not the SEC’s fault than Tennessee has been complete shite for the last 10ish years.
No one said it is.
Its the SEC's fault for having the asinine set up of forcing the insane cross division opponents.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:36 pm to GeauxTigerTM
quote:Well, the rest of my post outlined a few points. Evaluated and higher rated refs than other conferences. Completely fair financial sharing which set the standard and more conferences have come to follow since.
The SEC does a better job than every other conference in trying to keep a level playing field.
What do you base this statement on?
quote:All conference offices have to be somewhere and the chances of that somewhere being geographically closer to one member institution than the others is pretty good. I mean ... I'm not a mathologist or anything, but I'm guessing the kind of geometry some people are demanding here just isn't really possible in the real world.
The fact that the SEC offices are located in Birmingham?
quote:Again, people are going to have to graduate somewhere. I don't think you can refuse a person a job they are qualified for just based on where they got their degree. I don't like the guy in question because I don't think he's been a good official overall in many games, not just LSU ones, but you can't legally disqualify him based on his school. We have laws in this country for a reason ....
That the head of officials for the conference is an Alabama alumnus? That based on their own rules in place, he would be unable to call games that directly involved BAMA, but it's ok for him to oversee the ENTIRE conference?
quote:Based on the number of championships we've won on that field compared to Alabama, I'm not sure what the complaint is here.
Is it that the baseball conference championships are held in Hoover, Alabama?
quote:These four recently benefited the most by not changing up the schedule, but it's not like these two rivalry games were the only consideration in that conversation. That's like saying it's a bad idea to enter a lion's enclosure at the zoo to feed him peanuts because he might be allergic. Yeah, okay maybe ... but there are other considerations, too, you know ...
Is it that we cater to 4 teams (BAMA, AU, TENN and UGA) when it comes to creating our football schedule so as to keep them involved in their long standing rivalries but not simply place them in the same damn division to enable it?
In short, no organization run by humans is ever going to be perfect. Our systems of politics, business leadership, church leadership, crap even homeowner associations can tell us this. So again, why do you think that going to another conference is going to be any better? Can you objectively show that it will be better for LSU financially, athletically, academically, or otherwise? Better national exposure, better TV deals, better opportunities for students and student athletes?
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:39 pm to Adam Banks
I hate the permanent opponents because we go a decade without visiting teams in the East.
The Bama cakewalk though is recency bias. Tennessee was 10-2 vs Alabama in the 12 years before Saban got there. It’s not like we are doing much better ??
The Bama cakewalk though is recency bias. Tennessee was 10-2 vs Alabama in the 12 years before Saban got there. It’s not like we are doing much better ??
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:40 pm to Adam Banks
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Instantly our previous agreement gets torn apart because bama writes a letter that was laughed at nationwide. What still ends up happening? LSU gets the short end of the stick
This is the problem in a nutshell. Hopefully Woodward is a knife fighter when it comes to this kind of crap.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:48 pm to Adam Banks
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We constantly get a plate of crap served to us by the SEC. once again bama complains and the sec reneges on our deal for more night games
Tamu moves to the conference “oh LSU your fans will be inconvenienced and play on thanksgiving day”
Bama you want to a week off by playing Tennessee ok LSU you play Florida
I believe the sec apologized to Kentucky about our basketball game while the sec office backed the devin white travesty
Officiating is terrible
I’m not saying we should leave but I wouldn’t mind setting up some meetings
Back when I was on Tigerbait.com, and before Texas A&M and MIZZOU joined the SEC, I use to think LSU should entertain leaving the SEC for the Big 12. However, not sure any longer for several reasons. First is Economics, the SEC TV deals provides a strong Revenue Stream that the Big 12 can not given its current member structure and with Texas having its own network. Not to sound alarmist but football participation rates in HS are declining across the country, means likely fewer hard core fans in future. Game attendance is down means less royalty revenue from merchandise sold on campus, concession revenue, etc. Second, look at the travel schedule in the Big 12 as it currently stands, imagine November games in Iowa or Kansas, or West Virginia. Had LSU left when Texas A&M was still in it and was in a Big 12 South with Texas A&M and Texas and the Texas Schools, ok or some combination that did not warrant LSU having to play tons of games in Snow and Ice in November, could have worked.
I don't see it now.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:49 pm to Adam Banks
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Its the SEC's fault for having the asinine set up of forcing the insane cross division opponents.
Georgia-Auburn
Georgia-Florida
Georgia-Tenn
Bama-Tenn
Bama-Auburn
Ole miss-Miss. St.
Ole Miss-LSU
all these games should be played every year...not sure how it can be done another way. On one hand the argument is to keep traditions (night games at LSU) and on the other hand yall say frick traditions...sorry but LSU playing night games isn't more important than keeping certain games every year
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:51 pm to GumboPot
quote:and we'd have to cut back on our budget significantly.
ACC would be fun.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:52 pm to jonboy
I’m sure this has been said but people who will now have to find a hotel or just not go to the game with the 11:00 am kickoff are getting screwed ! It’s the Saturday Night in DeathValley not Saturday morning.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:53 pm to Adam Banks
quote:When Bama was assigned Tennessee, and LSU was assigned Florida, Tennessee was widely considered the best team IN THE COUNTRY, and Tennessee is historically BETTER THAN FLORIDA. When LSU fans complain about things like this it makes all of us seem like a bunch of pussies - not just the OP - even those of us who aren't pussies.
Bama you want to a week off by playing Tennessee ok LSU you play Florida
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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all these games should be played every year...not sure how it can be done another way.
Wake Forest and UNC played this year.
As an out of conference game.
UGA Auburn Bama Tenn feel so strongly they can do the same
Or
Move auburn to the east and see how much the iron bowl is valued.
Doesnt matter to me.
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