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re: Article on why Greedy is skipping bowl.

Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:55 am to
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:55 am to
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Call me old school. I'm good with that.
LSU was a major part in giving him this future opportunity. A matter of respect and gratitude ought to be on the radar toward his school and warrior brothers.




totally agree and he could take a lesson from DW. Most people will say I'm lying...but if it was me...I'd play the bowl.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:02 am to
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You're one of those douche bags who believes in participation trophies amirite?
No? It's actually the opposite. Besides the playoffs, Bowl Season is nothing more than one big participation trophy for teams that weren't good enough to make it. That's why I see no reason for Greedy to play in it if he doesn't want to. But congrats LSU! Because you managed to be 5th best in your conference, you get to go to a big boy bowl.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 11:06 am
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:05 am to
Playing in a bowl game in front of millions on New year's day is now worthless? Eh?

What world am I living where these ideas are mainstream?
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2513 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:06 am to
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We have a severe leadership issue on our hands and it starts at the top.

Well at least NO other college has athletes sitting out. It must be SE's fault.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:23 am to
Of course the bowl game isn't meaningless to LSU. It's a great exhibition match up and nice consolation prize for not making it to one of the two real bowl games(the playoffs). It will have a lot of exposure and LSU is going to make millions of dollars. This will also allow some of the younger players to gain some valuable experience. All of that is valuable.

At the same time this bowl game is meaningless to Greedy from a financial standpoint, but as I just explained that doesn't make the whole game meaningless.

Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5721 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:25 am to
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Besides the playoffs, Bowl Season is nothing more than one big participation trophy for teams that weren't good enough to make it. That's why I see no reason for Greedy to play in it if he doesn't want to


I'm not mad about his decision but I think it is an interesting discussion to involve the playoffs should we ever get into them, or for high round prospects playing in the playoffs:

Would you support Greedy if LSU had snuck into the playoffs and he decided not to play? Assume the playoffs aren't going to help or hurt his draft status.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:27 am to
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At the same time this bowl game is meaningless to Greedy from a financial standpoint,


a playoff game or national champhionship game would be as well. He could still get hurt and lose his draft status in one of these just as easily.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:48 am to
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Would you support Greedy if LSU had snuck into the playoffs and he decided not to play?
I would not. To me, at that point he would be quitting on his team because LSU would still be playing toward their ultimate goal of winning the National Championship.

I see this no different than a non-playoff NFL player sitting out the Pro-bowl because it's a contract year. Or a top 5 basketball player sitting out the NIT tournament.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:56 am to
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Greedy values rap culture over integrity and character. It's not entirely his fault but it is what it is


You sound like a gigantic piece of shite.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:05 pm to
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a playoff game or national champhionship game would be as well. He could still get hurt and lose his draft status in one of these just as easily.
Yes it would be. However he wasn't put in that position so saying he would or wouldn't sit out is nothing more that speculation.

I'd imagine that when Greedy was making his decision, he was weighing the financial risk vs the emotional reward. We both agree that there is no change in the financial risk between the Fiesta Bowl and the Playoffs/NC. I think we could also agree that there is a significant difference in the emotional reward of playing/winning the Fiesta Bowl vs playing/winning the National Championship. For me, that difference would be enough for me to play. I would hope it would be for Greedy as well, but we will never know.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:08 pm to
He received a full scholarship to play football that most kids can afford even though they deserve it
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:12 pm to
Look. I support Greedy's decision.

But honestly, the fact he........and so fricking many of his peers...........have children to think about is a testament to the fricked up culture they were reared in.

If that dude had a catastrophic injury in 2017, you're just looking at another mom on welfare.
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4104 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:16 pm to
Is it a shitty bowl game? I’ve been hearing how great it is we got a NewYears day bowl & first time in Fiesta.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:17 pm to
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But honestly, the fact he........and so fricking many of his peers...........have children to think about is a testament to the fricked up culture they were reared in.

If that dude had a catastrophic injury in 2017, you're just looking at another mom on welfare.




interesting
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:27 pm to
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Is it a shitty bowl game? I’ve been hearing how great it is we got a NewYears day bowl & first time in Fiesta.
It's a good bowl. Just think of it as LSU getting a better participation trophy than most of the other teams.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
10124 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:28 pm to
I think this might hurt his draft stock and how teams will see him.

If he is afraid of playing because of chances of getting hurt and ending his career. Does that mean he will do the same in the NFL and not put himself out there if his team is having a losing season in case he get hurt?

From an hiring perspective, I see a guy who stood to the end no matter what with a company (In this case LSU team) who's good, and another guy who is better on paper but he is afraid of getting hurt and ruining his career. That sense off signal flags to me that he might have a physical issue that is cropping up where he can't even finish out a season.

So outside looking in, who would you hired?

I like greedy and appreciate what he did but the issue would not even be up for discussion if he just played and not even give 100%. Don't bring unnecessary attention to yourself before you get drafted. He could have played like shite and blame it on Scheme or maybe just go half speed.

No one would have known.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
5185 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:35 pm to
Greedy - balls out! Add 10 'good' lbs before the combine, keep working to get even faster/quicker, and light it up. Tear it up Tiger.
PS I definitely wanted to see you play in our bowl game, we'll miss you, but I get it.

Posted by CHEEEEESE
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Member since May 2006
10476 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:47 pm to
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If that dude had a catastrophic injury in 2017, you're just looking at another mom on welfare.


At that point why wouldn’t he just stay in school and use his free education to provide for his family?
Posted by Musa I of Mali
Member since Jan 2017
454 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:54 pm to
Muh Bowl Game lmao. Had we hired a new OC and he decided to join LSU prior to his previous schools bowl no a single frick would be given, but how dare Greedy make a decision that he feels is best for himself and his family. I’m sure many on here have turned down high paying jobs or promotions lol and I’ve seen multiple guys bashing greedy reference their divorce on here in the past. How dare you quit on your kids and family.......See how stupid that sounded. #BeGreedy
Posted by Mad_Mardigan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
1945 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:35 pm to
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If you wanna go there, all football is meaningless!


It is. It's just a game, of which people who don't play it invest way to much into, both monetarily and emotionally.
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