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re: Arm Management
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:18 am to Hot Carl
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:18 am to Hot Carl
If someone in the media criticizes the move then the right move is for for Jay to go on the attack against them and then for LSU to ban them from the box.
No baseball media wants to be left out from the premier program
No baseball media wants to be left out from the premier program
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:21 am to MetArl15
Well I’m pretty confident that he will be just fine
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:34 am to lsufan4lifeMiles
It is a lot of pitches when players are throwing harder than ever.
Time will tell on this subject.
He will either be fine or you will see his velocity fade down the stretch due to arm fatigue.
If you think the second scenario can’t happen you haven’t watched enough Dave Van Horn and Arkansas baseball. Heck, just last year Hagen Smith, a first round pick, had his velo drop in the sec tournament. They claimed it was a faulty radar gun, until it happened again in the regional and he got blasted by Kansas State.
Time will tell on this subject.
He will either be fine or you will see his velocity fade down the stretch due to arm fatigue.
If you think the second scenario can’t happen you haven’t watched enough Dave Van Horn and Arkansas baseball. Heck, just last year Hagen Smith, a first round pick, had his velo drop in the sec tournament. They claimed it was a faulty radar gun, until it happened again in the regional and he got blasted by Kansas State.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:43 am to msutiger
DVH does this on the regular
Jay likely only did it because Anderson has an extra day of rest and they probably were willing to sacrifice a bullpen session. I’m sure Kade wasn’t forced against his will. Throwing 15-30 more pitches than normal isn’t that big of a deal.
Unlike BK or MM, Jay should be getting the benefit of the doubt. The guy has done nothing but win, he has never been one to ruin arms, and the guy eats sleeps and consumes baseball 24/7. Unlike the other two he is in tune to his team.
If Jay starts throwing Cade for 135 every week we can cry like bitches then. It was a one off with an extra day of rest coming.
He didn’t go from making sure we did the right things to get Paul skenes drafted number 1 to ruining arms in 2 years.
The fact we are questioning the only coach of a male sport that has actually delivered is a bit insane.
Jay likely only did it because Anderson has an extra day of rest and they probably were willing to sacrifice a bullpen session. I’m sure Kade wasn’t forced against his will. Throwing 15-30 more pitches than normal isn’t that big of a deal.
Unlike BK or MM, Jay should be getting the benefit of the doubt. The guy has done nothing but win, he has never been one to ruin arms, and the guy eats sleeps and consumes baseball 24/7. Unlike the other two he is in tune to his team.
If Jay starts throwing Cade for 135 every week we can cry like bitches then. It was a one off with an extra day of rest coming.
He didn’t go from making sure we did the right things to get Paul skenes drafted number 1 to ruining arms in 2 years.
The fact we are questioning the only coach of a male sport that has actually delivered is a bit insane.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 5:46 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:51 am to Honkus
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probably won't even play 3 games this wknd, it's April
Another scenario is that we have weather delays in he next two games and need more pitchers..
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:20 am to TFLEX
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majority of modern arm damage comes from kids throwing year round at a young age and extreme velocity mechanics. Not because they threw 120 and rested 6 days at 20 years old.
Actually in game pitch count is the highest correlation to arm damage along with throwing high velocity.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:00 am to barry
Yea it is a pretty big deal to throw that many pitches. It was a thing of beauty and a game that he will always fondly enjoy. He will watchi that one with his grand kid, from getting out of the the basaes loaded jam early to dealing in the 8 th and 9 th inning. I’m guessing there were scouts there and he was making money with that showing. I’m sure he will be fine but he stayed in a little long. I’m sure he wanted to but he is a kid.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:05 am to lsufan4lifeMiles
After the first couple innings, where he had to pitch out of a few jams, the end of the game was very low stress innings in terms of pitch count. 25-30 pitch innings are more taxing on the arm than total number overall. The fact that those last innings were so quick and he didn’t have to labor through it is more telling on why Jay felt comfortable trotting him out there.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 7:07 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:06 am to chalmetteowl
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quote: “Yeah, I know they have a bunch of natties, the Yankees of college baseball, but we won’t throw you 135 even if you’re dealing”
Or how about this -
“We know they have a lot of National Championships but they do not prioritize your health and future the way we do. Heck I saw one of their pitchers throw 135 pitches the other (day). Does that sound healthy to you?”
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 7:23 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:17 am to BHS78
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Yep, Nolan never threw that many pitches in a game (sarcasm)
The last time Nolan Ryan threw 135 pitches in a game was 32y 9mo ago. Kade Anderson was not born yet.
In 1992, there were 5 recorded Tommy John surgeries performed on MLB pitchers.
in 2024, approx 36% of all MLB pitchers have had Tommy John surgery.
but muh nOlAn rYan
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:27 am to Lester Earl
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In 1992, there were 5 recorded Tommy John surgeries performed on MLB pitchers.
The above group grew up in an era without dead-set pitch counts
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in 2024, approx 36% of all MLB pitchers have had Tommy John surgery.
The above group grew up in an era with hardline pitch counts to “protect the arm”.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:28 am to Lester Earl
Double post
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 7:29 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:34 am to Lester Earl
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The last time an mlb pitcher threw 135 pitches in a game was in 2010
what about a college game? The 100 pitch count number is such a crock of shite anyway.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:37 am to Choupique19
The average fastball in 2025 is 4-6 MPH harder than it was in 1992.
Do you think protecting the arm leads to more injuries? I am trying to understand what your point is.
Do you think protecting the arm leads to more injuries? I am trying to understand what your point is.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:38 am to Choupique19
Kade Anderson threw 135 pitches in 9 innings, that’s 15 pitches an inning.
Kyson Witherspoon threw 100 pitches in 6 innings, that’s 16.67 pitches an inning.
Burn the OU coach at the stake! Right, guys?
Kyson Witherspoon threw 100 pitches in 6 innings, that’s 16.67 pitches an inning.
Burn the OU coach at the stake! Right, guys?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:42 am to Lester Earl
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I am trying to understand what your point is.
Kade’s arm isn’t going to fall off today. One game with a 130 pitch count isn’t going to ruin him. I’m quite confident that Jay will keep him on a shorter pitch count next time out. 90 pitches, maybe 100 tops.
One outing isn’t so bad. But I would agree if you stack several 120+ pitch outings in a short period of time you could see some arm fatigue.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:46 am to lsufan4lifeMiles
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I do worry about 135 pitches consistently him being tired late in the season or even next weekend.
Do you really think that he’s going to throw that many pitches every time he’s out there?
And frankly, more pitchers need to be stretched out.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:47 am to Choupique19
Total number of pitches matters for arm fatigue, pitches per inning is meaningless.
How are you misunderstanding this?
How are you misunderstanding this?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:49 am to Choupique19
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Kade’s arm isn’t going to fall off today.
Didn’t say that
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One game with a 130 pitch count isn’t going to ruin him.
Didn’t say that
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But I would agree if you stack several 120+ pitch outings in a short period of time you could see some arm fatigue.
Didn’t say that so not sure what you are “agreeing” with me over
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 7:50 am
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