re: Are we giving WW a pass in all this and only blaming the Admin?

If WW didn’t “make those calls” we’d have a very shitty basketball team.


That’s just how it is. Don’t like it? Don’t watch it.

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Yeah. Y’all right. You changed my mind. WW did nothing wrong. He is just a victim. Poor WW

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Nope. He’s just being a good college basketball coach and doing what all the major programs do.

Did he pay players? I don’t know (with proof) and I don’t care.

Exactly.

He isn't guilty of anything.

It's absurd LSU is doing this right now.

Fcuk the administration. FreewillWade.

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Do y’all feel WW is innocent and he did Nothing wrong?

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No one in NCAA basketball is "innocent". Perhaps you should cite specific posts you're referring to, if there are any. No offense, but it's a stupid FKing contention.

Wade is young, inexperienced in many ways, and doesn't have 1/10th the protective infrastructure that a program like Kentucky, Duke, UNC, or Kansas would have in place. Given that, yes he was wrong to have the conversation. He obviously never considered the possibility of a wiretap or of the other guy recording his statements. Regardless of its true subject matter, meaning, or intent, his surreptitiously obtained, excerpted, and released comments sound bad. The words he chose, and perhaps the conversation itself were a mistake. So was his suspension.

The difference being, his suspension was not some spontaneous, candid, individual action. It was an action taken with the available benefit of time, counsel, consultation, and expertise. Yet it was as poorly considered as the conversation itself. It was as poorly wrought as Duke Lacrosse, and as political as the "Hands up! Don't shoot!" lie the Chair of the BOS previously propagated. The action . . . the suspension . . . was premature, amateurish and served virtually no positive purpose.

Predictably the suspension gained LSU no positive coverage whatsoever. Quite the contrary. Dicky V, Jay Bilas, Jay Williams, and a litany of others now use Wade's suspension as an admission of guilt by the school. Predictably they cite the FKing "admission" as reason to FKing sully the school, its students, its fans, and its FKing right to compete. The suspension was a FKing stupid decision, rendered by FKing incompetent FKing imbeciles. It is a FKing travesty, and an FKing stain on the institution.

The FKing actions in this case leave us in a situation where now if we lose Wade as a coach, no one of any capacity will remotely consider taking his place. No one. It will do to LSU basketball what the death penalty did to SMU football. You can FKing bank it. The difference being in this case, death will have come by virtue of a self-inflicted FKing wound.

Are you an Alleva alter?

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Yeah. Y’all right. You changed my mind. WW did nothing wrong. He is just a victim. Poor WW

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That's the problem- you're convinced he did something wrong, and want/need proof he didn't.

It isn't supposed to work that way, it's supposed to be the other way around.

The man apparently said the word "offer". Can you explain exactly what that meant? Do you have evidence?

Just out of curiousity, was he coughing, was he talking with a helium voice? You can't answer that because you never heard the tape. Nobody has.

You want to fire our coach on the basis of a defense attorney's leaked transcript of a sealed FBI wiretap, without hearing the tape in full, or even hearing the excerpt yourself. Programs go through coaches looking for one that can win, we finally hired one, and you're in favor of firing him based on hearsay. BTW, this supposedly involved Javonte Smart, and yet he's been cleared... so no evidence there.
So you're firing him for hearsay "semantics".

Absolutely. And to most level headed fans of LSU, its obvious that WW was asked during the past issues if anything else was out there that could be a problem. I would imagine LDU thought there wasnt after asking.

So then this latest issue arises, and LSUbis FORCED into protection mode and compliance steos in and puts conditions on the meeting. Between compliance in one ear and probably demands from the NCAA in the other, and an uncooperative head coach, i think LSU had to act accordingly.

Im NOT an overall Alleva fan. But i see no other way that LSU could show it was taking this seriously and making steps to alleviate further problems down the road.

IF Wade is guilty of something, LSU is in a better position than if he was still coaching. IF hes exonerated, all will be fine and WW will completely understand why LSU took the actions they did.

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I believe he's guilty, but I don't give a shite. I like winning.

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Humm...someone else once wrote "the ends justify the means." I would venture a guess that you are no big fan of the author. Universities should strive to uphold a strong set of values...cheating and winning at all costs should not be among them.