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re: Are expectations so low now, that some are legit upset at talk of getting a proven coach?
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
I’m not trying to gain anything, it’s simply enjoyable to continually point out the glaring double standards and willful ignorance O pumpers employ in a desperate attempt to paint his tenure as something other than a middling effort, average at best.
I saw improvement. Like I said, he managed to not lose to a mid-major. Things are certainly looking up. I’m confident he can put at least a field goal on the board against Bama.
I saw improvement. Like I said, he managed to not lose to a mid-major. Things are certainly looking up. I’m confident he can put at least a field goal on the board against Bama.
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:24 am to Bert Merlins
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And "fans" like you have such disdain for Orgeron that you are hoping LSU fails
Try again
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:28 am to RobbBobb
WE CANNOT EVER GET ANY NEW COACHES!
WHO YA GONNA GET?
SAME BS MANTRA WE HEARD WHEN MANY WANTED MILES arse GONE FOR YEARS! WHO YA GONNA GET?
KEEP PAWL WHO YA GONNA GET?
WHO YA GONNA GET?
SAME BS MANTRA WE HEARD WHEN MANY WANTED MILES arse GONE FOR YEARS! WHO YA GONNA GET?
KEEP PAWL WHO YA GONNA GET?
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Honestly, the same can be said about Saban when hired here.
There was no evidence Miles was a championship coach when hired.
Hiring a coach, short of getting someone like Saban to jump ship, is pretty much always a maybe.
The goal is to hire the person with the most positive indicators but even when you succeed, you miss a lot
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 10:35 am
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Why?
Because you're judging one coach on his start, the other on his end.
There was no evidence Miles was a championship coach when hired.
<------ The point
Your Head
Plus, is this the first time Orgeron has coached?
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:39 am to Damone
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Do you REALLY want to bring a coach’s first job record into this? Really
You're doing it with O.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:41 am to Freauxzen
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This is where part of the frustration comes from. I do believe O is capable of late career Miles and winning 8-10 games here indefinitely and never taking the next step. Hence why, yes, he will be here for multiple years while a certain segment of the base champions that as some phenomenal accomplishment every single year.
There will always be challenges, injuries, the next recruiting class to prop him up when we literally just got done with that type of coach resting on his laurels. And I'd argue Miles was RESTING and complacent, this is O performing at his highest level
Yeah. This is all in your head.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:44 am to Damone
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How many titles does ole miss have over the last 20 years. Hell when was the last time that ole miss won a NC?
Why would I care about Ole Miss
Because you're using his years at ole miss as years that he didn't win a NC. If you're going to use those years against him it's relevant to know how often ole miss has brought home a championship.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:46 am to Damone
Just want this on record.
In your opinion, theres no reason fans should expect a better season in 2019, correct?
In your opinion, theres no reason fans should expect a better season in 2019, correct?
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:47 am to nvasil1
quote:
Quote anyone who explicitly stated this. Otherwise this comment is absurd
They care more about the coach than they do the program
2nd post in the thread.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:47 am to RobbBobb
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How high are you based on that?
High -
Expectations ARE high
Results are yet to be determined
But consider this:
1. Returning legitimate QB
2. Quality backup QB
3. Expected change to R/P offense
4. Great recruiting class coming in
5. Emphasis on upgraded O & D lines
6. Returning experienced players
7. Solid coaching staff
I could go on, but yea, expectations are high !
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:48 am to nvasil1
quote:
Quote anyone who explicitly stated this. Otherwise this comment is absurd
They're fans of the coach, not the program. Still on the first page.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:57 am to 0
quote:
If you want to start firing coaches because they are only winning 9-10 games a year then there will not be a single coach with options that will want to coach here.
It seems like most can see that Orgeron is not going to get us above that level. The split in fandom is between the vast majority of fans that think we can do better and a very vocal minority that think finishing 3rd in the West and never competing for championships is the best LSU can do.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:59 am to tom
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most can see that Orgeron is not going to get us above that level.
Nah, it's just you and a few others.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
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very vocal minority
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:16 am to Damone
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O pumpers employ in a desperate attempt to paint his tenure as something other than a middling effort
Again, in your vast knowledge of college football, you can't see reason for people to be "pumped" for next season?
You've avoided it so far.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:23 am to bencoleman
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They're fans of the coach, not the program. Still on the first page.
Don't misrepresent what I was responding to. You claimed this..
quote:
the OP and several others have stated that if you're not prepared to replace O with jimbo right now
No one has said that. You inserted that qualifier yourself.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:26 am to RobbBobb
Didn’t read but how about frick Jimbo fisher. 
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:29 am to tom
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It seems like most can see that Orgeron is not going to get us above that level. The split in fandom is between the vast majority of fans that think we can do better and a very vocal minority that think finishing 3rd in the West and never competing for championships is the best LSU can do
This is all in your head. It's amazing what a person can make themselves believe.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:30 am to nvasil1
quote:
quote:
They're fans of the coach, not the program. Still on the first page.
Don't misrepresent what I was responding to. You claimed this..
quote:
the OP and several others have stated that if you're not prepared to replace O with jimbo right now
No one has said that. You inserted that qualifier yourself
It's the whole premise of the thread. It's actually what the thread is about. You're in denial.
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