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re: Anyone else uneasy that romero isnt in the lineup

Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by barry
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:13 pm to
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The pitching started getting better when romero was inserted in the lineup full time.



Look, if its about framing pitches then sure Romero has more value for his bat, but you can't have a guy back there that can't handle a breaking ball. He hasn't had that much problem over the last few months, so hopefully he just was having a bad night, but his play behind the plate was unacceptable.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:18 pm to
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He hasn't had that much problem over the last few months, so hopefully he just was having a bad night, but his play behind the play was unacceptable.


I agree. Let's make decisions based on one game. I remember when Pap was yanked during the first game at Auburn because he let a few of Lange's pitches get by him. Perceptions die hard.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:51 pm to
I had no problem benching him tuesday. Thats the good thing about having him and pap. He usully lets his mistakes get to his head. Thats his biggest fault. But after letting pap catch 14 innings wednesday, he should have been out there against state. I now know there was more to the situation than what is said here, but still. Its unexcusable he didnt get to hit for pap in the 8th yesterday or in the 9th instead of wofford
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 1:11 pm to
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Fact! Pap has always been better than Romero behind the dish


Not really.

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recently Romero must have lost confidence. He went from bad to worse, and CPM had no choice but to put him on the bench.

Unless CPM sees something at practice, Romero needs to be used rarely at catcher. The coaches choice for Romero is between he and Bryce at DH - and Romero is 1 for his last 18.

I'm telling you, something mental went wrong with Romero. It's not surprising, either, he's shown a compulsion of some sort with his inability to throw the ball to the pitcher early in the season. Hopefully, he can put it behind him.

CPM is adament about not using sports psychologists, and I generally agree, but this is one case it might be helpful.


That is because Coach is his own sports psychologist. Coaches have different styles. Some nurture, some criticize and nurture, some just criticize, etc. Some play head games with players. Our Coach plays head games like a boss. It works with some players (Louis Coleman for instance), but many don't buy into it. It is what it is.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:06 pm to

“It was pretty clear that (Romero)’s totally outplayed Michael Papierski and he deserves to be in there,” Mainieri said following his luncheon. “He’s a force for us. His defense has improved tremendously. ...

“Jordan has worked so hard, has improved so much with his receiving skills. I don’t think he’s a totally polished guy, there’s still a lot of room has thrown two complete games and just one wild pitch. Papierski caught Lange in the final four innings of Friday’s game following Romero’s ejection.

“He’s always had a great arm, and he’s always had good leadership qualities about him and he’s a physical presence,” Mainieri said. “But he’s dropped a lot of pitches in his time. But he’s improving on that. He still drops them here and there, but it’s better and he’s blocked some balls. Quite frankly, Alex Lange has pitched his two best games, and I’m not so sure it’s a coincidence it’s been with Jordan Romero as the starting catcher.”for improvement, but I do think that he’s improved enough defensively and offensively; he’s made such an impact that he has to be in the lineup everyday.”

“This is not so much of an indictment on Mike as it is kind of a coronation of Jordan,” Mainieri said.

Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:15 pm to
How can that be josh? Romero "can't handle a breaking ball."
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:18 pm to
I believe a wise man once said "perceptions die hard".
Posted by tigerbaiter1033
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:26 pm to
yeah I can't sleep at night I'm thinking about it so much
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:33 pm to
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I get "uneasy" when the doctor tells me it's time to check the prostrate.


You get uneasy when your doctor tells you it's time to check your ability to lie face down?
Posted by PaperTiger
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:36 pm to
To be fair, Bryce can't either.

Edit: I think Romero needs to DH, in which I thought you were referring
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 2:39 pm
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:43 pm to
Josh, while all of Mainieri's quotes you posted were valid when he said them, Romero's defensive lapses in the Tennessee game in the tournament may have been a game changer, no pun intended.

I mean, SIX STOLEN BASES against him in 7 innings and two wild pitches by Bugg that Jordan could/should have blocked but he just stuck his mitt out for and whiffed?!

Romero knew it himself by his behavior when he went into the dugout, slammed his mask down and Lange had to talk him off the ledge.

I'm not writing Romero off and I'm pretty sure Mainieri isn't either. Remember, Romero played with Mainieri's son at Catholic High so they go back together several years. Romero will be important to us this post season.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:45 pm to
Thats all i hope, is thAt he is given a chance. Im just worried that we will wait until we are in a huge hole to re-insert him in the lineup and itll be too little too late
Posted by PaperTiger
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:48 pm to
All of those weren't on Romero. When pitchers go slow to the plate there is nothing a catcher can do.

Hell one guy stole second with Stallings on the mound and no pitch. That's ridiculous.

Somewhere on here, might have been before Florida game, pap had only thrown out like 2 more guys in a few less steal attempts.

The non catching factor I agree with. Seems like he missed 5 pitches in a row.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:54 pm to
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Romero's defensive lapses in the Tennessee game in the tournament may have been a game changer, no pun intended.

I mean, SIX STOLEN BASES against him in 7 innings and two wild pitches by Bugg that Jordan could/should have blocked but he just stuck his mitt out for and whiffed?!

Romero knew it himself by his behavior when he went into the dugout, slammed his mask down and Lange had to talk him off the ledge.


Again, we are talking about one game. Romero was WAY off defensively that game, no doubt. All of the stolen bases were not not on him though. All of these games run together but wasn't one guy almost to 2B before the ball got to Romero--on Stallings maybe? What is our record with Romero at C vs Pap?


We all want the Tigers to win. I just think we need Romero to make a run.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 2:56 pm
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:59 pm to
I agree that we will need Romero in the postseason as well. But also lets be honest he had more than one bad game. He struggled during the Florida series as well.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 3:05 pm to
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He struggled during the Florida series as well.




At the plate for sure. I said that earlier. Every hitter has slumps. I am arguing against the posters that are saying that Romero can't catch. Yes, Tuesday was HORRIBLE, but the dude was a gold glove catcher at LSU-E and has done a good job behind the plate this year, as evidenced by Coach's quotes.
Wouldn't you have preferred Romero at the plate last night instead of Wofford?
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 3:07 pm
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 3:19 pm to
In the one game in the tournament where Romero started at catcher, Tennessee was 6 for 6 in stolen bases.

In the three following games that Pap started, the opponents were 2 for 4 in stolen bases. (And I believe they were really 1 for 4 because the second base ump missed the call yesterday on the base Maldonado stole.) And Pap is 2 for 6 batting in the last two games along with a sac fly and 3 rbi.
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Again, we are talking about one game. Romero was WAY off defensively that game
I agree. It's a very small sample size that we have observed. What we don't know is how he's looked at practice on the off day the team had on Friday and during infield/batting practice before games since the Tennessee game.

I'm pretty sure the coaches want to play the players who they think will give us the best chance of winning.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 3:21 pm to
Something is definitely wrong mentally. Hopefully his game winning hit and time off will shake him out of it. People are bringing up his bad Tennessee tournament game but remember him against Florida at the Box? He had trouble with pitches in the dirt and on two different plays he forgot he had to cover home.

We haven't seen him since that hit so we can hope that will shake him out of it.
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 3:22 pm to
He also had a couple of passed balls and a mental error that I can remember.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 3:25 pm to
Other players like deichmann, reid, and beau jordan have been allowed to play through their slumps and big mistakes. But i guess thats because they dont have anyone who can push them out.
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