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Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:22 am to slackster
“Add 60 yards rushing for Daniels and I don’t see enough production from Nuss”
That’s only because you can’t add and don’t understand efficiency. Tacking on the rushing yards and plays still leaves him short of Nuss in those games and drops his ypp more.
That’s only because you can’t add and don’t understand efficiency. Tacking on the rushing yards and plays still leaves him short of Nuss in those games and drops his ypp more.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 8:24 am
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:25 am to slackster
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You’re missing the point - he hasn’t thrown a high pressure pass since then, yet fans think he’s the answer.
So the UGA game wasn't high pressure? In the 3rd qtr Nuss and LSU score and make the game 35-17. Nuss gets the ball back and drives again hits Nabers for 59 yards and then Taylor to get to the UGA 5. On 4th and 1 they run and get stopped, but that would have made the game within striking distance (11 points).
I am by no means anti-JD. I expected him to make a big jump in the off season and tear it up this year. The FSU game looked a lot like last season though with hesitation, seemingly difficulty with pre-snap reads and open WRs not seen. On a positive note he did a better job with hitting WRs in motion so there are some signs of improvement.
Nuss may be a difference maker. Maybe he isn't. Maybe JD goes off the rest of the season like I hope he does. I just want the team to win.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:39 am to cas4t
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I don’t think Daniels is genuinely bad, just limited
His problem is that he is inconsistent. Not even game to game, it’s play to play. He has elite skills, but they aren’t always necessary or called for. The little things that have to be done right are still a problem for him (like wr screens).
It feels like we are winging it with him which makes it difficult to establish rhythm. Hard to apply pressure.
I really like JD and think he is a great player, but it very well may come to a point that sticking with him this season will be detrimental to our future success. I don’t know a ton about Nuss, none of us do. But he has a quick release and short memory and may be very well served to facilitate an offense constantly providing pressure on the opponent. Between the two, we need to pick an identity on offense.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:40 am to TaderSalad
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I’m not a 2QB system fan, but our current se up would make sense. Both are weapons in their own regard and since we’ll have to fight our way back in every game, we’d be foolish not to at least consider it.
If by two QB, you mean giving one of them a 2 or 3 drives, and then the other 2 or 3 drives, then sure, for a game or two so you can figure out which one is better.
If by two QB's you mean situationally, then absolutely not. We are already predictable enough. Trotting out one qb for running plays and the other for passing plays makes us even more predictable.
We are already extremely predictable with JD, as no defense is concerned about him throwing the ball down the field. We are going to start seeing CB's sit on those out routes and pick 6 them.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:47 am to GumboPot
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No one was calling for Brennan when Burrow was starting.
People were absolutely calling for Brennan to start in 2018. Plenty of "Burrow couldn't cut it at OSU, and Myles Brennan has more arm talent that anybody" hot takes.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:54 am to jgriffith
The trend line is going down for this program which, if it continues, will probably erode confidence in this staff. How could they have been so unprepared? Is there really no thought to give Nuss a try?
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:58 am to White Tiger
It’s bizarre, Daniels isn’t a bad player but he doesn’t fit this offense. Why not gear the offense to his strengths or if you’re that stubborn play the guy who fits what you want to do? Just like with Perkins it doesn’t make any sense at all.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:00 am to TigahTX
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Daniels is still QB1, cry about it.
My crying towel is soaked after Fla St.
I need more time.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:00 am to Byrdybyrd05
If only the WR would catch the damn ball. Far too many drops
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:06 am to Madking
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It’s bizarre, Daniels isn’t a bad player but he doesn’t fit this offense
he doesn't fit any offense if he can't throw the ball down the field.
That's literally all he has to do to be more productive. Just throw the damn ball down the field in single coverage to your WR's. If they can't make the plays, then that's on them. His bigger problem is the few times he does throw it down the field, it's a terrible throw.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:10 am to TeddyPadillac
That’s not his only problem though. He holds the ball too long, takes too many negative plays and sacks as well. My point is we’ve seen QBs like him be effective when you get creative in the run game and limit throws while creating more “shot plays” but you can’t expect a QB like JD to drop back 40 times a game and be a consistent player.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:21 am to Madking
One wonders just what the coaches discuss in meetings?
"Hey, how bout we put Perkins in the middle so he can mix it up with massive guards and centers? That's the ticket!"
"Hey, how bout we put Perkins in the middle so he can mix it up with massive guards and centers? That's the ticket!"
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:32 am to White Tiger
“Man this Perkins kid can really get after the QB…. (Coach stomps feet and crosses arms, pouting) “But I want him to be a middle linebacker”
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:41 am to Madking
I cannot make sense of it.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:50 am to Ponchy Tiger
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If only the WR would catch the damn ball. Far too many drops
FSU had dropsies and still aired it out. You notice the drops more because we don’t throw very much
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:27 am to Madking
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That’s not his only problem though. He holds the ball too long, takes too many negative plays and sacks as well
THROW THE BALL! that's the problem. He just doesn't throw it.
He's more worried about someone needing to be wide arse open instead of throwing into single coverage up the sideline, or throwing a receiver open over the middle.
If they aren't wide open, or it's not an 8 yard out route, he isn't throwing the ball.
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My point is we’ve seen QBs like him be effective when you get creative in the run game and limit throws while creating more “shot plays” but you can’t expect a QB like JD to drop back 40 times a game and be a consistent player.
40 is way too many i agree. 30 isn't too many, and should be expected. And there should be a lot more quick passes at the line of scrimmage, which is basically a run play just done through a pass on the outside. You do that enough and then you can hit the guy that's been blocking for those plays running up the field wide open.
How often are we hiking the ball and throwing bubble screens or simply a quick throw to a guy who's defender is playing 10-15 yards off of him? If we line up and the nearest defender is 12+ yards away from a WR, then just say hike and sling it over to him as quick as possible. It's 1 on 1, make a play.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:39 am to TaderSalad
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You notice the drops more because we don’t throw very much
Daniels threw the ball 6 more times than Travis. In the first half when the game was still in doubt Daniels had 1 more attempt than Travis.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:50 am to TeddyPadillac
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Just throw the damn ball down the field in single coverage to your WR's. If they can't make the plays, then that's on them.
Right. Just a minimum of 3 times a game. Read the safeties and if there is single coverage deep let it rip and allow our WRs to run under the ball. Just doing that changes everything from an offensive execution stand point. Right now good teams know if they can just give the appearance of tight coverage JD is not going to pull the trigger so they man up and stack the box. JD has to force good teams out of man coverage and the only way to do that is with his arm. His feet will only reinforce man coverage and stacked boxes. JD has not shown the ability to take what the defense gives him because he cannot see what defense gives him fast enough until it's too late.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:41 am to GumboPot
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2. Nuss kind of screwed himself with is early career interceptions despite playing really well his last three games.
This is not entirely true. This is like saying that bread is only part of a sandwich. They see him in practice.
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