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re: All you that hate NIL, transfers, etc. how do you not see the hypocrisy you're displaying?
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:57 am to Srobi14
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:57 am to Srobi14
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Anything and everything that is fun, that many people enjoy, capitalism will eventually find a way in to ruin it.
The people who promote capitalism weren't the ones pushing the narrative of student athlete oppression for years, sir.
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Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:00 am to prepsportsallday
quote:Many of you have a strange definition of “forced”.
guys are forced to go make money for a school
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:09 am to LSUTiger2000
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Let the free market reign and support the school.
frick you and your high horse.
It’s not NIL and new transfer provisions that are the problem. It’s the complete shitshow created by the lack of structure and rules enforcement around them. NIL and one-time waivers need to be policed for tampering and need to be structured and run like pro sports free agency, with set windows of activity and some basic restrictions. Instead, we have to total clusterfrick that’s going to hurt overall interest in the sport more than it helps.
Some people get the sour grapes taste when guys leave, especially when they go somewhere else in the same conference. That’s perfectly natural. The difference in your examples is that we’ve now had players leave LSU for Georgia, Ole Miss, UK, Arkansas and Bama in just two years. That absolutely fricking sucks, because we all know 3 of the 5 (Gilbert, Smith. Ricks) involved tampering, just like we all know Bama has been actively tampering with Boutte trying to pull him away.
Fix all the bullshite and make it easier to frick conference opponents who tamper with our players, and most of the sour grapes over guys leaving fade away.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:11 am to misey94
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NIL and one-time waivers need to be policed for tampering and need to be structured and run like pro sports free agency, with set windows of activity and some basic restrictions.
This is LITERALLY what the portal is for. Once you go in the portal you can communicate with other teams.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:12 am to Big Scrub TX
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The portal has been around for several years. The vast majority of players stay put.
The new rules changes to allow schools to take additional players to replace transfer losses are going to alter that drastically. The logjam is going to start clearing this off-season once recruiting is done, and then it’s going to be constant movement.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:15 am to misey94
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The new rules changes to allow schools to take additional players to replace transfer losses are going to alter that drastically. The logjam is going to start clearing this off-season once recruiting is done, and then it’s going to be constant movement.
Everyone complains there aren't regulations.
The NCAA adds regulations, and people complain.
This is a 2-way street. LSU is very likely to poach a potential AA OT from FIU soon. Also, our GOAT quit on his team and took advantage of a similar new transfer rule to come to LSU with 2 years of eligibility left. We cannot complain about the loosening of transfer rules pretty much in perpetuity.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:16 am to PaulsBunions
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The ncaa has no right to tell a person what they can do with their name. Youre the kind of moron that would defend share cropping as free enterprise.
They and the conferences DO have the right to put rules in place that don’t allow athletic departments to turn NIL into their own little legal money laundering operation.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:19 am to Srobi14
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Anything and everything that is fun, that many people enjoy, capitalism will eventually find a way in to ruin it.
Yea, fellow comrade. The Eastern Bloc was fricking lit
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is a 2-way street. LSU is very likely to poach a potential AA OT from FIU soon. Also, our GOAT quit on his team and took advantage of a similar new transfer rule to come to LSU with 2 years of eligibility left. We cannot complain about the loosening of transfer rules pretty much in perpetuity.
You could actually read what I posted. None of what I said suggested related to your flimsy examples, or would have prevented either of those moves you bring up.
I didn’t complain about the existence of NIL and the portal. What I am complaining about is the absolute lack of any structure to the system. Simply cutting down on schools tampering with other schools’ players, especially within conferences, and restricting movement into and out of the portal to certain windows that don’t conflict with coaching changes and recruiting, would solve a lot of the problems.
This is how pro sports leagues handle player movement. If college is now going to reflect those leagues, the NCAA and the conferences need to step the frick up and follow their lead when it comes to organization and rules enforcement.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is LITERALLY what the portal is for. Once you go in the portal you can communicate with other teams.
It’s like you just have your head stuck in the fricking sand. That or you don’t and are just setting up a straw man to beat on. We all know you love to do that.
You do know that several programs are actively steering kids who are not in the portal to leave for money, right? Everyone does. That’s what needs to be stopped, not player’ ability to enter and exit the portal.
In the NFL or NBA, any team caught doing tampering with a player outside of the rules can see their deal reversed and will definitely lose draft picks and face large fines. There are a few well-known recent examples. However, it doesn’t happen because the leagues police it hard.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:30 am to MOT
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Many of you have a strange definition of “forced”.
There is a legal definition/synonym that might also seem strange to you. If you interpret force as meaning "gun to one's head" I get it.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 7:49 am
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:39 am to misey94
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You do know that several programs are actively steering kids who are not in the portal to leave for money, right?
Then that's illegal.
More regulations aren't going to stop teams who will ignore them anyway.
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That’s what needs to be stopped
If you can prove they're doing this, they will be punished. There are already rules in place for this.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:41 am to misey94
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None of what I said suggested related to your flimsy examples,
One of my examples is a guy in the portal LSU is able to recruit right now b/c of the regulations you were just complaining about
"flimsy"
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What I am complaining about is the absolute lack of any structure to the system. Simply cutting down on schools tampering with other schools’ players,
Already illegal.
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and restricting movement into and out of the portal to certain windows that don’t conflict with coaching changes and recruiting, would solve a lot of the problems.
This may happen. It's still a new system and there will be kinks to work out.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:48 am to rar
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NIL is in response to players not being compensated.
Free tuition, free room-and-board, first class nutritional and educational facilities (including tutors) not available to other students, and other perks associated with being a "student" athlete are compensation. Just ask any kid or parent who's either had to take out loans or, God forbid, work to pay tuition.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 7:52 am
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:10 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Free tuition, free room-and-board, first class nutritional and educational facilities (including tutors) not available to other students, and other perks associated with being a "student" athlete are compensation. Just ask any kid or parent who's either had to take out loans or, God forbid, work to pay tuition.
I guess this is the old-fashioned way of looking at it. I used to listen to people like Jay Bilas constantly complaining about the players not getting paid. All of that stuff you mentioned is just totally dismissed. It's like all that free stuff doesn't matter because they are entitled to it. They need more. There was a time when a free college education meant something. Used to be a big deal.
Over the past few decades a sense of entitlement has developed in all of sports. It's just the world we live in.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:11 am to bignic26
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