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re: All charges against Guice dropped. Future?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:54 am to lsupride87
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:54 am to lsupride87
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I meant to say the victim.
The victim chose the settlement, and in Virginia that can be done without the choice of the DA to move forward with the case
that makes more sense. And it also depends on the charge. Not every single charge can be dropped by a victim, even in Va according to my quick and professional google search.
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:54 am to Elleshoe
quote:Correct
And it also depends on the charge. Not every single charge can be dropped by a victim, even in Va according to my quick and professional google search.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:56 am to the LSUSaint
quote:you think just because charges are dropped means the accused is innocent?!?!?
Charges are DROPPED. You think innocence should be punished?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:56 am to Snakebucket
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Guice
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Future?
Hopefully a long long way from LSU or CHS
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:03 am to atltiger6487
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you think just because charges are dropped means the accused is innocent?
He is innocent because there is always a presumption of innocence.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:03 am to Rebel
quote:What?
He is innocent because there is always a presumption of innocence.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:06 am to Ace Midnight
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FFS, you know that "charges dropped" is stronger than an acquittal, right? Means prosecutors don't think there is enough evidence to get past a preliminary hearing, much less a conviction.
This is still America for a little while longer. You don't have to be found "not guilty". You have to be found guilty.
Period. Full stop.
You people are dancing in the streets because a known rapist used his money and influence to get charges dropped. It’s like the OJ verdict aftermath all over again. If he rapes you daughter or sister next, I’m sure you’ll be outside the courtroom asking for an autograph.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:10 am to Rebel
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He is innocent because there is always a presumption of innocence.
Legally speaking, this is true. It doesn’t mean he didn’t actually do any (or all) the things he’s been accused of though.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:11 am to Rebel
quote:that couldn't be more wrong.
He is innocent because there is always a presumption of innocence.
Presumption of innocence is only IN A COURTROOM. It means the jury can't just assume the accused is guilty and the prosecution must prove it.
But "presumption of innocence" DOES NOT mean that an accused is actually innocent.
Hell, Charles Manson was presumed innocent in the courtroom, but he was guilty as hell.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:21 am to sheeeeeit
Although the prosecutor in a sex crimes case can proceed with a prosecution after the victim settles, it seldom happens in cases like this.
These cases are hard enough to successfully prosecute, but when you have a victim who has lost incentive to prosecute, and has accepted money, it gets a whole lot harder. Thus charges are often dropped after a settlement. Despite a the fact that the defendant committed criminal acts.
These cases are hard enough to successfully prosecute, but when you have a victim who has lost incentive to prosecute, and has accepted money, it gets a whole lot harder. Thus charges are often dropped after a settlement. Despite a the fact that the defendant committed criminal acts.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:32 am to the LSUSaint
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You think innocence should be punished?
paying the ransom does not mean that you are innocent derrius...
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:33 am to sheeeeeit
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You people are dancing in the streets because a known rapist used his money and influence to get charges dropped.
No. I'm saying we have a system. That system has processes. There is no requirement that a person be found not guilty to be exonerated. "Innocent until proven guilty" is still a thing.
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It’s like the OJ verdict aftermath all over again.
Well, there are some subtle differences. Outside factors clearly, unambiguously and without question affected the jury's deliberations in that case. There was a literal trail of blood from the crime scene to OJ's bedroom that was ignored by the jury (IMHO). However, what it means is that - from a criminal law standpoint, no consequences could flow to OJ. He was never convicted of the criminal charges. He was found civilly liable.
Which is, of course, an option for the alleged victims of Derrius Guice to pursue if they so choose.
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If he rapes you daughter or sister next, I’m sure you’ll be outside the courtroom asking for an autograph.
This is a terrible mode of argument. Do what you want to do, baw, but I would recommend dropping this tactic. It is unseemly and ineffective, again, IMHO.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:54 am to Snakebucket
Rapists and murderers are in the NFL Hall of Fame Baw, he should get an opportunity.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:13 am to FLObserver
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Must have been rough
Rough Hell ! They may have been comparing notes on who was the best lay.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:28 am to lsupride87
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But we judge individuals on what we think they did.
Well the Constitution differs with your opinion. Opinion is just that but Law is Law and apparently many even on this board don't get it or don't respect it.
As you said, I do make my own "judgement" but the difference is I do not think that my opinion is any basis for ruining a
person's life.
A woman or Women making allegations as serious as sexual assault but none have gone to take him to Court is in my "judgement" weak.
I recall a case at Duke where a Woman lied about being assaulted by members of the Duke Lacrosse team being judged based on opinion. They were dropped from scholarship and judged in the "Court of Public Opinion" to be guilty. However, as it turned out the Woman was lying. The idiot Athletic Director was part of the problem of harshly judging the players. His name was Joe Alleva and he shortly thereafter became LSU's problem.
We have Courts for a reason.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:32 am to ecb
You’re correct sir, only reason he might not is because of the current # climate, owners, gms, and coaches don’t give a shite about that if the guy can play
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:49 am to LSUJockStrap
quote:You mean Catholic High didn't teach him how to act properly? Were they just using him for football?
He has a future if he grows up and learns how to act
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:59 am to Snakebucket
Whatever money Guice made is being spent on settlements and attorney fees. He did it to himself.
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