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re: Alex Lange signs with Cubs for 1.925 million. Best of Luck!

Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71219 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:30 pm to
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unless he develops a new pitch in the offseason.

if anyone has the work ethic to develop a third pitch, it's Lange, and I think he has the ability to do so as well. If he can add a changeup into the mix and work on his consistency, he could definitely move into the top 15-20. frick, why am I doing this to myself when I know this is going to be moot in about an hour and a half.
Posted by jose
Houma
Member since Feb 2009
29654 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:31 pm to
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Hour and a half left.



Shoot, another thread said 2pm. Thanks!

I'd have to take the 1.9 myself
Posted by BIWO
Member since Dec 2015
1821 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:31 pm to
His second contract would be substantially more, correct? (Assuming he made it up). Wouldn't it be smart to leave now to be 1 year closer to that second contract?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24667 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:31 pm to
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Yep, there's a lot more for him to lose than gain by coming back for his senior year.


Not to mention...the players that came back last season came back to "win a championship." Lange wouldn't be returning to a team that is likely to make a run at a CWS title.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87178 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:32 pm to
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His second contract would be substantially more, correct? (Assuming he made it up). Wouldn't it be smart to leave now to be 1 year closer to that second contract?
That's not how it works. This is just the bonus. Minor league contracts are crap. This is nothing like the NBA or NFL.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24667 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:33 pm to
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His second contract would be substantially more, correct? (Assuming he made it up). Wouldn't it be smart to leave now to be 1 year closer to that second contract?


This isn't the NFL. He would have to move up the ranks before he gets the serious money. Minor league players make peanuts. They have to make it big in order to get the $$$$. It might be his second contract, it might be his 5th, it might be never.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:33 pm to
Yeah this is just for his signing bonus. He'll be making $1200 a month in A ball with everyone else
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18878 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:33 pm to
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That's not how it works. This is just the bonus. Minor league contracts are crap. This is nothing like the NBA or NFL.


yyyyyyup

Goal 1: Make it to the bigs
Goal 2: Stay in the bigs
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78911 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:34 pm to
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His second contract would be substantially more, correct? (Assuming he made it up). Wouldn't it be smart to leave now to be 1 year closer to that second contract?


No, the number that applies is the signing bonus. It's not what they'll be making on a yearly basis.


ETA: 4 people answered this already.
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6599 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:35 pm to
No he didn't he signed for 150k, his slot was like 350k. Chump change compared what Lange would get.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6599 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:36 pm to
These are all bad examples they all made money coming back except Poche.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24667 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:37 pm to
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if anyone has the work ethic to develop a third pitch, it's Lange, and I think he has the ability to do so as well. If he can add a changeup into the mix and work on his consistency, he could definitely move into the top 15-20.


You think they didn't try to work the change up into his pitches this season? They tried and he wasn't highly successful with it. In college it becomes a mix of:

- do you keep throwing the change up in games until you get comfortable with it and get it right.

- do you stick to what you do best and give your team the best chance to win.

In college they are going to go with the second option. In the minors he is going to keep throwing the change up until he gets it figured out so that he can work his way up.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44760 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:37 pm to
Freeman also lost money. Initial
report was wrong
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78911 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:37 pm to
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These are all bad examples they all made money coming back except Poche.



No shite... you're missing the point I was making.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24667 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:38 pm to
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These are all bad examples they all made money coming back except Poche.


None of those people were first round picks dude. We are talking a difference of over a million dollars. You can't compare Poche or Freeman returning to Lange returning.
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2654 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:40 pm to
Why is it baseball players can get drafted, negotiate a contract without and agent and then decide whether to come back but it can't be done in basketball
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
14703 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:41 pm to
Was it Gausman's signing that wasn't announced until 2 or 3 hours after the deadline? Everyone thought we had him.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87178 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Why is it baseball players can get drafted, negotiate a contract without and agent and then decide whether to come back but it can't be done in basketball
Because baseball is stupid. And it doesn't work that way either.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44760 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:41 pm to
Good question
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18878 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Why is it baseball players can get drafted, negotiate a contract without and agent and then decide whether to come back but it can't be done in basketball


Probably because basketball is only 2 rounds and teams don't want to risk wasting a pick. There are 4230934090 rounds in MLB draft.
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