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re: Alex Lange is very good against left handed hitters
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:55 pm to Jwho77
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:55 pm to Jwho77
also you can make the argument that game 2 is more important than game 1 because you will face a better team in game 2 if you win.
But Poche got the start because of TCUs high number of lefties in their line up. HE laos and a better super regional outing than Lange.
CPMs biggest mistake today wasn't starting Poche it was staying with him when they went up 4-1.
But Poche got the start because of TCUs high number of lefties in their line up. HE laos and a better super regional outing than Lange.
CPMs biggest mistake today wasn't starting Poche it was staying with him when they went up 4-1.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:56 pm to LSU316
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How can people not see that the most important win in this damn tournament is game 1.
Lange does not give you that much greater of a chance to beat TCU. Lange gives you an exponentially better chance at beating Vandy. It's not very hard to see why PM did this. You're in the same spot if you throw Lange today, win, and then Vandy beats Poche. Only in that situation, you are probably not going to bring Lange back for the third game and you damn sure aren't going to bring Poche back. However, if we win Tuesday, Poche will likely throw on Thursday, and Poche is better than anyone we would have rolled out there had we started Lange today.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:08 pm to UpToPar
I'm struggling to understand why people don't understand this
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:14 pm to LSU316
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Bottom line your best pitcher always starts the 1st game in this tournament.....every other team did this including Vandy who,is facing the weakest offense in the field.
Mainieri did that with Nola and look how that worked out.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:15 pm to catholictigerfan
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Starting Poche was a good decision.
No.
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Mainieri did that with Nola and look how that worked out.
Right on the money.
You pitch your best pitcher which gives you the best chance to stay in the winners bracket. You worry about tomorrow when that times comes.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:16 pm to Catman88
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No it wasn't.. CPM didn't learn anything after his last trip on 2013. He made the exact same move then and pitchdd Cody Glenn in game one. How did that work out for us?
Please don't compare Poche to Glenn. Poche couldn't recover from his errors for some reason. He's been tough of late.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:16 pm to Tino
I'm struggling to understand why people think any of this matters when we could only score one run on their starter.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:23 pm to Catman88
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CPM didn't learn anything after his last trip on 2013. He made the exact same move then and pitchdd Cody Glenn in game one. How did that work out for us?
yeah that was a head scratcher at the time but you're not supposed to question the coach apparently.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:24 pm to Tino
People really don't understand that the first two games are weighted the exact same. Lange is our best option of course. But Poche was better suited for TCU. Still the right call.
Now, leaving him in to face two lefties for match ups sake when it was obvious he was done... That was a huge mistake.
Now, leaving him in to face two lefties for match ups sake when it was obvious he was done... That was a huge mistake.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:26 pm to ell_13
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People really don't understand that the first two games are weighted the exact same
I'm still baffled that people are trying to argue against this
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:26 pm to monsterballads
quote:Are you guys this clueless?
CPM didn't learn anything after his last trip on 2013. He made the exact same move then and pitchdd Cody Glenn in game one. How did that work out for us?
yeah that was a head scratcher at the time but you're not supposed to question the coach apparently.
Who pitched game 1 in 2013 CWS for LSU? I know who it was. Do you?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:27 pm to Jwho77
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Q: If Lange pitches like an ace for the win today while Poche shits all over himself defensively in the winners' bracket Tuesday, where does that leave LSU?
you can't look at it like that. That's just as bad as looking at it the way PM did.
You play to win the game in front of you. You worry about the next game when it comes. Momentum and confidence are real things in the game of baseball. You want to be sitting at 1-0. Guessing what will happen is the 2nd game is the same
Poche single handidly lost this game today. The decision couldnt have backfired worse
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:31 pm to Lester Earl
It was still the right decision with the goal of going 2-0. If he doesn't go completely out of character with two straight inexplicable derps, he likely continues to cruise against a good matchup for him. People will disagree no matter what, and I have my issues with Mainieri like many do. But this decision was not a bad one.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:35 pm to Golfer
quote:Exactly.
Nola
Yet these dumb asses want to say PM make the same mistake as 2013 by NOT throwing his ace game 1 CWS.
Just making up their own history, tRant.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:36 pm to Jwho77
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But this decision was not a bad one.
I wouldn't call it bad, but it was definitely questionable and risky
yea, the game's are "weighted" the same, but it's sure better playing without the chance of going home with a loss. Added pressure with a freshman going and a demoralized team.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:38 pm to Lester Earl
I think he was playing to win till the top of the 6th when he pulled Newman.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:38 pm to Lester Earl
Some would argue game 1 pressure would be even bigger on a freshman.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:38 pm to ctiger69
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Best pitcher on the team sitting on the bench. Clearly, it was the wrong decision.
Your logic is awful.
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