re: Aiden Moffett portal?

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thought it was weird when they started to used Dutton more. I was surprised Hellmers wasn’t getting those innings.

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Dutton got 7.2 innings in SEC play and was not good. Helmers got 4 innings pitched but did worse.

Your opinion of Helmers must be based on the last game where he was unreal, but nothing before that suggested he would do that well.

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The conference ein/loss record isn’t all about pitching. We finished tied for 11th in runs scored. I call that a D.

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The team was built around the pitching. Johnson said in the preseason that people he talked to thought the staff could pitch them to Omaha, and he agreed.

The talent was so good that they underachieved & still were good enough most nights

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No I just think Hellmers has better stuff than Dutton. For as bad as he was in his limited SEC action, he was really good in non conference play. It’s not that I think Hellmers was that much better, I just think he had more upside

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I liked Hellmers too, he pitched “different” than all our other pitchers. He was a different look.
The reinvented Hellmers was intriguing, but he didn’t produce in his limited opportunities.

Now we did see in that last game that what we saw finally emerged, but for a team skating on ice, there weren’t many opportunities to try him out down the stretch.

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I, for one, really would like to see him stick around.

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Same

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Yeskie didn’t do much for the development of a lot of these young pitchers. Moffett, Cam, & Kade Anderson who was misused. I think Moffett could have done what Dutton did this season.

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Cam wasn’t ready and frankly may end up a poor decision as a recruit for where this staff was at the time and what we needed. We needed guys who could step in and play, not a two year project.

Moffett showed some progression, but like Helmers, the staff didn’t seem to trust him enough to use over guys who are JAGs on their best days (Dutton and Loer, specifically. Maybe Ulloa as well).

I don’t know what the frick you are talking about with Anderson. Maybe they could have turned him loose more in SEC play, but we saw his progression in the postseason. He looks ready to be a lock-down SEC starter next season.

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I think Moffett could have done what Dutton did this season.

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I dont really get this comment at all. Moffett still had issues finding the strike zone, and when he did, he tended to get hit some still.

Dutton had the opposite issue of always being in the strike zone, and naturally also got hit quite a bit too as his stuff just isnt good enough.

The reason Dutton played over someone like Moffett is pretty obvious, 1 was a consistent strike thrower and the other one you never knew what you were going to get (Moffett) still.

Moffett improved from his freshman year obviously but he was still a very flawed pitcher who a lot of times would only come in and throw 1 pitch, a fastball. And if it was in the strike zone, it got hit, especially latter half of season.

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That is a little hard on Ack. He was ok most of the year.

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Ack was what he was late last year discounting the UT Omaha outlier. He just didn’t take another step forward like many hoped. But he was solid. Guidry was pretty much the same. Solid, but not appreciably better than his best last season. The staff just didn’t seem to trust him as much this year.

Little did improve, but that was from virtually unplayable to a guy who could get you a few innings if he was on. Ideally, he would not be your 5th most reliable arm, but that’s the spot he was in until he got hurt.

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Using ERA he improved. He was terrible last year except……..

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Hurd didn’t show any really progression this season. Those numbers are not that much better and he is still a head case. One great outing doesn’t change that, as much as we all appreciate it. It will take him doing that consistently and him proving he can battle out of jams to be able to say he’s better.

None of his issues are on the staff, but saying Hurd was better is kind of ridiculous when the staff went into the season counting on him to be as starter and he finished being used only when absolutely necessary.

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The lack of trust in Moffett and Helmers is odd considering what they showed in late opportunities, especially Helmers.

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I completely get the lack of trust in Moffett, he was still an unknown with control most of the season and only really had 1 pitch that was getting hit the latter half of the year.

But Hellmers is interesting, you look back at his whole season and only really had like 2 bad appearances and thats it.

Its not to say was UNC Hellmers the real Hellmers we could have seen most of the season, but he rarely gave them a reason to not use him and they still kind of treated him like one of the worst arms in the pen.

I'm sure jay feels like he could have used hellmers more.