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re: AI finds that a quarter million cancer research papers have been faked

Posted on 10/16/26 at 11:45 am to
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12977 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 11:45 am to
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It's a giant fricking sham, folks. Wait and see how ridiculous this thread will get as soon as user "onmymedicalgrind" shows up to defend this bullshite. Because he definitely will.


Most doctors will not take chemo treatments...they would rather just be made comfortable and live the rest of what lives they have left.

Chemo has been proven to open the doors for the body to metastasize cancer. Some people survive it...most do not as they suffer even more after having it and die faster.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
35398 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 11:51 am to
Kind of what this guy found out, only for the drug company to sell Provasic...

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
78128 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 11:56 am to
Worst analogy ever lol
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
17535 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 12:08 pm to
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Maybe, but AI pulls its data from things like journals. If the journals are BS, AI is going to give BS answers

The obvious fix is to train AI to identify shite journals and shite research.

It seems like that’s where we’re headed. AI should help us make better evidence informed decisions.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32961 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 12:23 pm to
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If you think the cancer 'treatment' model was actually anything about curing people of cancer and not just a way to extract billions from patients.. I can't help you.


I thought I was cynical....

I've had cancer twice. I saw the tumors. They were real. The treatment was real. Not everyone who has cancer gets defrauded in cancer care.

So if you get cancer, what are you going to do? Hopefully not see a doctor... you don't trust them.
This post was edited on 10/16/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
12076 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 12:50 pm to
Thanks for offering that perspective. There’s plenty to criticize about the cost of cancer care and the incentives in medicine, but “patients can get exploited” & “the treatment is just a scam” are very different claims. The latter has to account for experiences like yours which are all too real.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29512 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:06 pm to
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A 2026 study trained an AI on 2,202 cancer papers that had been identified as fake. It then applied this model to look into 2.65 million original cancer research papers published between 1999 and 2024. It flagged 261,245 papers as fake

Of course, this completely computer algorithm result does not prove that any papers are fake. It merely creates a list of hits that would have to be investigated before a conclusion can be reached as to any single paper.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
11766 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:09 pm to
I’ve been saying this for many years, and take no pleasure in its truth

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17347 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Most doctors will not take chemo treatments...they would rather just be made comfortable and live the rest of what lives they have left. Chemo has been proven to open the doors for the body to metastasize cancer. Some people survive it...most do not as they suffer even more after having it and die faster.


Huh? What?

How can you even know this?
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12977 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:37 pm to
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How can you even know this?


There was a study done several years ago and showed that ~ 75% of doctors refused chemo.
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