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re: After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !

Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48011 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:47 pm to
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ever wanted Canada and his bull shite offense. He had to go out and make a hire and put his first choice of OC SE ON HOLD. THATS A FACT


spacecowboy alter


surely natural selection hasnt let 2 people this dumb make it to adulthood
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 12:10 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48011 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:52 pm to
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This from the guy who constantly used Houston losing to Navy and SMU as proof that Tom Herman wasn't good enough for LSU. 

But Orgeron at Ole Miss is off limits


oh his hypocrisy knows no ends...


he has repeatedly not given Herman creditfor his 1st yearat Houston because he says," That wasnt Herman's players or program" AND THEN IN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH TOUTS O'S INTERIM TENURES.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17409 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:58 pm to
I know, Rick. In this very thread, he said he only cares about Orgeron being the coach at LSU, yet he recently posted an article about his interim stint at USC.

At least it's all kind of entertaining.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 11:02 pm to
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its amazing that you want to forget the only time O was allowed to make lone term decisions at a program


It's really amazing that you truly don't seem to realize that this is the 2nd time Eaux was allowed to make long term decisions at a program. You must really be a history buff because you seem to dwell on ancient history.

AND I called another poster "dense" earlier this evening. I now need to apologize to them.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48011 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 11:10 pm to
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It's really amazing that you truly don't seem to realize that this is the 2nd time Eaux was allowed to make long term decisions at a program


i do realize it. it wasnt good either.
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You must really be a history buff because you seem to dwell on ancient history. 




a coaches past is the only thing to judge them by
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AND I called another poster "dense" earlier this evening. I now need to apologize to them. 

youve already publicly posted that im smart so you calling me dense just proves i must be hitting a nerve.

i have a question for you......

what 2018-19 record would you deem a success?
what 2018-19 record would you deem a failure?


youve already publicly posted that the only action youve ever disagreed with o about was Janzen Jackson, so i want to iron out what would make you jump off the bandwagon
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 11:12 pm to
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Alleva believed all we needed was a coach that could get out of the way and let the offense run and we could win a championship
Alleva must have forgot checking the LSU record book for offensive categories,..... or maybe LSU's best wasn't good enough any more.

#1,2,3 in PPG
#1,2,4,5 Scoring
#1,2,3,4 Offensive TDs
#1, 3, 5 Y/Season
#1, 4, 5 YPG
#1, 3, 5 YPP
All under different OCs.
Plenty more in '17 Media guide.

Downvotes don't make the facts go away.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48011 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 11:49 pm to
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Alleva must have forgot checking the LSU record book for offensive categories,..... or maybe LSU's best wasn't good enough any more. 

#1,2,3 in PPG 
#1,2,4,5 Scoring 
#1,2,3,4 Offensive TDs 
#1, 3, 5 Y/Season 
#1, 4, 5 YPG 
#1, 3, 5 YPP 
All under different OCs. 
Plenty more in '17 Media guide. 

Downvotes don't make the facts go away.


the sad fact is that posting the above objective facts is deemed defending.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5792 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:05 am to
616 posts of futile attempts desperate to win an internet argument. This is glorious.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78159 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:08 am to
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to some degree all that is true. Could be said about any HC other than the motivation part. That is on him.


I disagree

If Nick Saban’s defense is bad for more than a year your gonna look at Saban.

Same goes for CUM’s offense

Coaches are hired usually because they can lock down one side of the ball.

Saban may not call plays, but it’s his philosophy, his playbook, and he essentially teaches the DC how to run his defense.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 12:13 am
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:22 am to
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a coaches past is the only thing to judge them by
No, the past is much too finite and real, stfu about that.
It's all about what O is going to do, followed by ample excuses for why it didn't happen, we'll get em next year.
Don't dwell on ancient history and notice the further we get from 2015, the worse it gets.




Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38385 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:46 am to
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the sad fact is that posting the above objective facts is deemed defending.


To be fair, Miles was clearly on a downward trend. While I don't agree with the assessment of Miles "getting out of the way," that was the general public outcry. And Alleva and O reacted to that. O's entire sell was the "anti-Miles." Getting paid less to hire better coaches and "let them coach," was the main thrust of why he would be successful.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48011 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 2:36 am to
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o, the past is much too finite and real, stfu about that. 
It's all about what O is going to do, followed by ample excuses for why it didn't happen, we'll get em next year. 
Don't dwell on ancient history and notice the further we get from 2015, the worse it gets.


Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:44 am to
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To be fair, Miles was clearly on a downward trend.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but IMO Miles was a QB away from posting some job saving 11 win seasons instead of 10, maybe even another SEC title.
I didn't see much inroads to the Bama problem though (and tbh, not sure there is an answer until NS retires), so was ok with a coaching change for a premier coach, then Alleva became a settler.



This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 5:19 am
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 7:19 am to
“ only the second time Eaux was allowed to make term time decision”

Well, if his first time had not been such an utter failure he might not have had to wait a decade for a second chance. And since when has LSU football become the place where failed HC’s come for a 2nd chance?

Our 4 L’s this season is the most since 2014 and our bowl L is the 1st since 2014. Not exactly the direction I was hoping to see us headed .
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19954 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 8:24 am to
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what 2018-19 record would you deem a success?
what 2018-19 record would you deem a failure?


Don’t bother. I’ve asked him this a handful of times and he’s disappeared or changed the subject each time. And earlier on this thread he bitched about someone ignoring his question. Piece of work, this one.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 8:29 am
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4926 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 8:45 am to
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How was it botched. Canada accepted the position and was the LSU OC last season?


1. He was fired after one year. Despite being made the highest paid offensive coordinator in football.
2. O admitted that he offense wasn’t what he wanted.
3. Now the players have to learn from the 4th system in 3.5 seasons.

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The transfers are out. They are not included in the rankings.

1. Ending as the 15th ranked class for LSU after 1.5 seasons of being head coach sucks. Especially when recruiting is the primary reason O got the job. He totally fell on his face here.
Posted by LSUMIKEV
Member since Sep 2017
784 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 9:25 am to
Your a f'ing idiot
Posted by LSUMIKEV
Member since Sep 2017
784 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 9:28 am to
You know nothing about the program whatsoever just atypical waste of post on you F'ing dumbasses
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103984 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 9:34 am to
I've come around a bit on the recruiting class, but the stuff that he posted about Canada is 100% accurate.

Eta: Responded to the wrong post, but correct person.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 9:36 am
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19621 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 9:34 am to
Damnit, Miles became a cultural icon around here. He was loved and rightly so. Yes, he was a “Yankee,” but his quirky personality fit Louisiana’s fun-loving culture so well.

If ONLY he could have adjusted to the times, ditched his Stone Age offense, hired a good young OC, and got out of the way.

Can you imagine the triumvirate of Miles, Canada, and Aranda with Miles “letting his coaches coach”?
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 9:37 am
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