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re: After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !
Posted on 3/10/18 at 8:24 pm to TigerLunatik
Posted on 3/10/18 at 8:24 pm to TigerLunatik
Let's just say he Canada was not his first choice. We all know who it is and he is there now. Canada going rate was between 1.3 to 1.7 LSU paid him well your are spot on about $$$$ but they did not click never really did and O did not trust him and when you do not have trust shite implodes. A lot of trust and progress going forward.
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 8:54 pm to TigerLunatik
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So, transfers don't count toward class rankings or scholarship limits? That's what I'm gathering from some comments here.
Transfers do count towards scholarship limits. They count towards the total of 85 scholarship players that are allowed on the roster.
Transfers also count against the total number of recruits you can sign in a class which is 25 currently.
Transfers ARE NOT counted for recruiting class rankings. On any of the services I have seen anyway. Most people go by the 24/7 composite rankings and transfers are not included in those rankings.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:04 pm to LSUMIKEV
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I know for a fact we had a damn good year recruiting
As evidenced by a 3-star LSU signee who was rated as the 19th best recruit out of 22 being named to the 1st team 6A Florida All-State team.
Not to mention Greedy's rating in the 2016 class.
Plus if transfers were included in the rankings you would have Fehoko, Giles and Moss that would count towards this class. Two of those would probably be 5-stars or very high 4's at least.
I'm not sure how it works but in the past Jeremy Hill was included in the rankings for 2 separate years. I believe Valentine may have also. Tyler Shelvin is not, but will be like a 2018 signee since he was ineligible last season.
The people crying and moaning about the recruiting class are only doing it for one reason. To knock one individual.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:09 pm to Tiger Ree
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Transfers also count against the total number of recruits you can sign in a class which is 25 currently.
This is the part I was asking about because I've seen people say factor in Fehoko, Giles and Moss to this year's class. But, we only have 2 slot left and don't they already count towards last year's class?
I guess it doesn't really matter though if they don't count towards the rankings anyways what year it is. Like you said before, they didn't play last year. Thanks for the info. I knew you could be civil bro.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:24 pm to LSU Groupee
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Have you seen a major SEC football power hire a coach who in his only other HC job produced the very most miserable record in that schools 125 year football history?
Have you ever seen that happen and the hired coach go 9-3 regular season and get to play Notre Dame in a bowl game?
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O had done nothing before his hire to show that he deserved the LSU job and he has done nothing since his hire to prove he deserved the hire.
You don't follow:
football?
New player additions (recruits/transfers) coming in?
Staff hires (including the article in the OP of this thread)?
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Our recruiting this year was ranked lower than at anytime in the past decade.
And still filled NEEDS better than half of those classes in the last decade. There is a reason over 30 freshmen had to play for LSU last season.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:27 pm to baobabtiger
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1. he botched the most important hire of his first year.
How was it botched. Canada accepted the position and was the LSU OC last season?
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3. So the recruiting wasn’t good when you take transfers out?
The transfers are out. They are not included in the rankings.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:34 pm to nvasil1
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So is listing his failures. But you think that's stupid.
Dude, try to follow along before making yourself look even dumber than you already appear.
It was quoted in my post and I have already stated it a second time for some idiot (probably you since you seem really dense). The post I was replying to was not about your made up crap. It was about the poster hating the LSU coach who has a winning record for stuff from over a decade ago.
Read again: The guy hates the LSU coach for what happened OVER a DECADE ago. Not his coaching style, not because he doesn't have a mustache, not because of any other reason.
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Oh wait, no you don't. You have Tom Herman's record from 2016 memorized.
WTF is this? You are one scatterbrained Tard.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:35 pm to TigerLunatik
Are you suggesting there's a changing narrative that we are being told to spin the mismanagement of certain head coaching functions?
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:45 pm to Stephen1979
I think O is an optimist and overly energetic about his job. I believe he truly loves LSU and tries to pump up the fan base. The problem I see with that is that he says the same things about the coaches on staff now as the coaches he got rid of or moved from last year. It's hard for me to trust what he's saying now. I honestly don't think he is purposely lies, but if he thought last year's offense was so good and it wasn't, why should I believe this year will be any different? Far less experience this year.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:51 pm to LSUMIKEV
quote:Sauce required for this trollburger.
O never wanted Canada and his bull shite offense. He had to go out and make a hire and put his first choice of OC SE ON HOLD.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:00 pm to LSUMIKEV
Moron.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:27 pm to TigerLunatik
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This is the part I was asking about because I've seen people say factor in Fehoko, Giles and Moss to this year's class. But, we only have 2 slot left and don't they already count towards last year's class?
No, they didn't count towards last year's class because of the rules changing this year. This is the first year of the new rules that have a hard 25 signees limit. The ONLY way to get around that is to sign less than the 25 limit the previous year.
When those guys transferred in 2017 the rules were not the same and they just counted against the 85 total scholarship limit.
One thing the new rule will do is stop schools from signing non-qualifiers. Pookie this year is an example. If LSU signed him and he went to JUCO his slot would still count against the 25 limit. Kids better apply themselves in the classroom or they may never step foot on a major college campus starting now.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:33 pm to LSUMIKEV
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O never wanted Canada and his bull shite offense. He had to go out and make a hire and put his first choice of OC SE ON HOLD. THATS A FACT. Now everyone in place we roll some heads next year. Nega tigers deal with it!!
It's pretty clear that Kiffen was in the binder. That was the play and was probably reason #2 (after Reason #1 - Alleva believed all we needed was a coach that could get out of the way and let the offense run and we could win a championship) that we hired O - taking a major coordinator from Bama and a generally successful OC.
Kiffen snubbed O, or mislead him, and that's why the search for the next OC was shallow. O had no plan B.
O sold himself as "bringing the best coordinators." That meant Kiffen. That never meant Steve E. Ever.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:33 pm to dukke v
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would you be saying the same thing if Miles were still the HC?????
youre the only one changing their level of acceptance for coaches.
you deemed a 1 loss sec title season as underachieving yet tout a 4 loss 2017 as a "pretty good record".
you did nothing but shite on 2013 and 2015 3 loss seasons yet you claim," we should be happy with the record because Vandy and Kentucky would love to have that record."
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 12:15 am
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:36 pm to Tiger Ree
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Typical ranter logic and stupidity right here. Hate a coach for something that happened over a decade ago at another school. Brillian
its amazing that you want to forget the only time O was allowed to make lone term decisions at a program and then want to tout interim tenure where...
1.he didnt hire the staff
2.he had no hand in getting the season's major contributors on campus
3. he wasnt running the offense
4. he wasnt running the defense
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:39 pm to boxcar willie
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had many arguments with you about the offense back in those days. I argued that the offense needed to open up and that was Miles one weaknes
so when you bashed something about miles it was ok because you deemed it warranted.
its pretty amazing that you dont see your hypocrisy.
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You argued that there was nothing wrong with LSU offense and that it was the same as Bamas,
i literally never said this.
i told you bama ran an offset i formation. a formation you had no fricking clue existed.
at no point did i say nothing was wrong with the offense under miles.
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Yet you continue with this lie, why do you do that? I suppose it's just because you are a lying a-hole.
because you did it.
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please feel free to link something. something that you can find that paints me in the worse light possible. Please go ahead or just shut the frick up.
ill do what i want bitch
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:42 pm to LSUMIKEV
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Who ever says our recruiting is bad is an F'ing idiot
worse class in years
5th best in the sec.
lsu players ranked outside the top 20 at their position= 13
bama players ranked outside the top 20 at their position= 3
lsu had more players ranked outside the top 50 at their position than bama has players ranked outside the top 20 at their position.
facts and shite
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:45 pm to LSUMIKEV
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talent. Who ranks this shite anyway few ex BAMA fans did for years hum BAMA was a top 3 every year. I know for a fact we had a damn good year recruiting but you numb nuts will look at a rating and go hum not a good year. Just garbage.
lets see.... whose opinion should i thrust?
in one corner we have lsumikev, a guy that didnt see a single shred of legit film on the players
in the other corner we have professionals that get paid to evaluate talent and they have all 22 film of these players when available
such a hard choice
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:45 pm to Tiger Ree
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Kids better apply themselves in the classroom or they may never step foot on a major college campus starting now.
Don’t kid yourself, the school two states east already has a plan to skirt this issue,much like Lacey miraculously qualifying after Curtis’ “summer school.”
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:45 pm to Tiger Ree
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Dude, try to follow along before making yourself look even dumber than you already appear.
It was quoted in my post and I have already stated it a second time for some idiot (probably you since you seem really dense). The post I was replying to was not about your made up crap. It was about the poster hating the LSU coach who has a winning record for stuff from over a decade ago.
Read again: The guy hates the LSU coach for what happened OVER a DECADE ago. Not his coaching style, not because he doesn't have a mustache, not because of any other reason.
It wasn't me, but please continue the insults.
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WTF is this? You are one scatterbrained Tard.
This from the guy who constantly used Houston losing to Navy and SMU as proof that Tom Herman wasn't good enough for LSU.
But Orgeron at Ole Miss is off limits.
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