re: After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !

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A ridiculous statement like this, is what makes this...

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Why is it a ridiculous statement. You think doubling the support staff so the coaches will get information in a more timely manner is staying the same? You think making on-field practices shorter during the season to save the player's legs is staying the same? Why is his statement ridiculous?

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" bringing the program's old and antiquated football operations into the 21st century and making it astronomically far more efficient and better than it ever was before," which is ludicrous. You may be right, but he'd need to win 10-11 games this year and 11-12 games next year to prove this statement at all

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That is NOT true. There are more variables to consider. The fact that LSU does not play the same schedule as last year is one such variable.

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So you can't say definitively that our program is THIS good right now, without any actual evidence

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Do you ever actually read anything? You quoted the post and say the above but it has nothing to do with what you quoted. It was never mentioned that the program "is THIS good right now". How could or why would they have or need evidence to back up something that was never said?

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Simply put, O hasn't proven himself, and he's done just as much bad as he's done good.

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In your opinion of course. I see a hell of a lot more good than bad. But let's make up hypothetical shite up and cry and bash.

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You oversimplify a lack of trust in O into a belief that they want O to fail. All a lack of trust does is make one want to get to the other side faster.

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What is this other side? It would be funny if you say "his getting fired" which would require his failure that you say is not wanted.

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That isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's one way to do things. Ripping the band aid is the phrase, and it happens a lot in business

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You are a funny poster. The guy has been on the job one year. Won 9 games while playing over 30 freshmen, losing key players to injuries, etc. And you are crying, bitching, moaning and wanting to rip the band aid already. I'm glad you are unhappy. I think you will be unhappy for a long time to come.

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And honestly, that's partly on O for being a coach you can't trust. From Kiffen

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Do you blame him for going after Kiffin? Kiffin was coming to LSU IF he didn't get a head coaching gig. That is not Eaux's fault.

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to "Compete for the Championship," to we don't have a kicker

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What do you want a coach to say? Something like "this team sucks, it's going to be a long season and we have absolutely nothing to play for"? Would that make you happy if he was a miserable, negative person also?

LSU's kickers gave up 36 free points last season. That number included 3 missed extra points. He was being honest. Maybe to motivate the kickers to do better. Maybe just being flat out honest. He went out and got the best kicker available. Does that bother you also?

I get trying to be optimistic, but there are just too many people in this thread who have purple and gold glasses on.

This team is gonna be lucky to get 8 wins next season. You better lay the under or hope for a miracle.

Georgia and Bama were in the playoff, both are bringing back a ton, and both are bringing back good qbs. Might even be heisman talk around Tou.

Lsu has a young qb that couldn't beat out DE. Sure he was a fifth year senior, but it was this boards opinion he sucked. And brennan or narcisse couldn't beat him out. One or the other might end up being good but next year is gonna have some growing pains.

Couple that with a new offense and LSU's offense is gonna struggle. Oh and the starting RB has had 46 career carries and 10% of them have been fumbles. So there's that.

Defense will be this teams strong suite, and that's scary considering they're moving WR's to CB's to have depth.

Plus the schedule, which has been talked about ad nauseam. 6-8 wins at most.

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In that vein, Orgeron is not entitled to praise simply because I'm an LSU fan and he's the LSU coach. He has to earn praise, and he's yet to do so.

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Nothing huh?

retaining Aranda twice?

Hiring a super bowl ring wearing O-line coach who twice gave up 12 or less sacks for two entire seasons in two separate P5 conferences?

Hiring the nation's #2 recruiter for the 2017 class? A guy who will be at the top again after this year's RB haul?

Hiring support staff isn't good? Even if it will help the coaches immensely?

Building talent and much needed depth on the lines is not good?

None of that is worth praise but EVERYTHING the midget does for a competitor deserves every bit of praise the "so-called" LSU message board fans can muster.

Some guy was sucking Midg off earlier so much I thought he was going to say he could listen to over 200 songs at the same time and tell you the names, performers, writers, label and give a description of the album or CD covers.

Or you could show him up to forty colors at one time and he could instantly and accurately tell you what one color you would have if they were all combined.

Or that he could leap whole cities in one bound, if he wanted to.

LSU fans suck.

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Can you tell me how the ypg and ppg in the 2016 Ensminger games compares to the 2015 season average for ypg and ppg?

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On a game by game basis?

Or do you want to count Eastern Michigan and Western Kentucky in the 2015 averages?

Do you count the fact that LSU played 5 ranked teams out of the 8 games SE was the OC in 2016?

Do you count the fact Eastern ? and Western Kentucky from 2015 were replaced by Southern Miss and #13 Louisville as the only non-SEC teams SE coached against?

Let me know and I may think about doing the comparison. thanks !!!

I think they're on to something with all the assistants and gathering info early but they really need to evaluate what they want to do on offense immediately, keep things simple, and become really good at it. What needs to be fixed is working as a unit on offense. We need natural leaders to emerge. One of those leaders has to be the QB and then have one for each position, and have them demand that the players work, study, and get down to business right now, not later on.

We need to settle on an offense. Hell run something similar to what Myles ran in HS. Spread the field and run draws and fakes out of it. Run lots of RPOs. Need to get the WRs, TEs all running crisp routes on time, which is vital to your offense. Teach the technical things, double moves, back shoulder pass, how to read the defense and adjust your route to that coverage. If LSU can just come up with packages plays that score TDs instead of FGs when in the RZ we will win many more games.

We can't be afraid to pass in the middle of the field when it's a short field, we just can't. Be most creative once down there so that you get the defense looking one way and you go the other. Run a bunch formation where the WRs go many different directions and quick double moves. That's would confuse most defense's. Or use 3 WRs to one side, then run an option play to the other side with an option to pass in the middle.

That jumbled up offense when we get near the EZ has to go! If it's that close to the GL and we do jumble the O, run a play action pass out of it so that other teams don't key in all the time. So many things we can do. Use those big arse WRs to out jump the small DB when we play those teams with small DBs. Make them penalize us.

We need a smart quick thinking QB who knows his offense and can then manipulate the defense. I hope who ever that is, is who starts for the Tigers this year. Not just bc he has the strongest arm or is the fastest guy. The guy who scores the most and is the best decision maker out there is who should start! Go Freakn Tigers! WE ARE COMING you sorry MFERs!!

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What needs to be fixed is working as a unit on offense. We need natural leaders to emerge.

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The inexperience worries me here.

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We can't be afraid to pass in the middle of the field when it's a short field, we just can't. Be most creative once down there so that you get the defense looking one way and you go the other. Run a bunch formation where the WRs go many different directions and quick double moves

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Hopefully they will finally rum some slants, drags and square ins. Definitely agree with the second part here. I've always called these combination routes. A couple routes that will work well against zone and a couple that work well against man. Let the QB identify the defense and look for those routes. Also, using the depth of the field in those combinations.

Wish we didn't have to wait until September to find out this stuff. I put zero stock in the spring game.

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He had the 7th rated class handed to him by Miles

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He was the recruiting coordinator from the time Frank left until the time he was named the interim HC. He was as responsible if not more for the class as Miles. That is why NOT ONE recruit changed their mind and every one of them signed with LSU. It wasn't because they thought Miles may come back.

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He certainly tried to frick it up by offering Tua, someone that was never coming here

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You think that was Eaux's idea or Kiffin's? Who was Tua committed to at Bama? A team offering the #1 player at their position is only a bad thing for a team EVER when it is thought that it was Eaux's idea.

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He almost lost Brennan and Narcisse because of that.

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ALMOST? But they did sign with LSU right? Almost only counts in horseshoes and Eaux.

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The 15th ranked class could've been higher and he would've gotten credit for it

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You know what he should have gotten credit for? It will never show in any rankings and I don't care because it gives idiots another thing to be miserable about.

The #51 player coming out of high school. Fehoko
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a Biletnikoff candidate in his sophomore year. Giles
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the 123rd rated player in the nation. Moss

What would the ranking be if they included these players that were recruited to LSU by Eaux?

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but he fricked up the Surtain recruitment after Miles had him in the boat for 3 years

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The recruit informed him at 11:00 pm the night before signing day. Coach Eaux is not responsible for the recruit and his father being pieces of shite. That's on them.

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Then didn't have enough room for Goodrich who wanted to commit.

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You typed this arse-backwards. He didn't have room for Goodrich because of Surtain. He was honest with Goodrich and told him there would not be a scholarship available. When the pieces of shite mentioned earlier bailed at the last minute it was too late to get Goodrich back on board. Coach Eaux can sleep at night over his decision.

Of course you would have been all for Eaux telling the #1 CB in the class to take a hike. You would have been okay with Eaux lying and stringing along Goodrich and then when Surtain signed telling Goodrich "Sorry Charlie, I lied, good luck finding another team".

What Eaux did was the right thing. What Surtain did was wrong and affected Corey Raymond - his lead recruiter for all those years - as much as it did Eaux.

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Pretty embarrassing job by him quite frankly

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If you think so. Like I said as far as this matter goes, I'm sure he has no problem sleeping at night.

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That's two consecutive years that him offering a QB that was never coming here harmed LSU.

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If Gunnell comes to LSU I would say it helped. I would rather Grant that Foster 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. Who is the second QB? Tua? Offering Tua did not hurt LSU in any way.

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Fact: Orgeron has never won more than 9 games as a head coach for a full season.

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Brilliant. I'm being serious, since it came from you.

your little trivia piece totally ignored the question though. I can dig it though, water is wet.

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Even if things aren't as bad as some believe, most are at least skeptical about the future of the program right now. And not without reason.

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If they know absolutely nothing about football. Don't follow LSU. Hate the coach so much that no matter how much he improves the O & D lines, increases staff to make the coaches more efficient, or good hires he makes they won't care and as you say continue to be "skeptical".

I mean nobody hates Eaux or minds that he's the coach. They only hate the process by which he became the coach. EVERYBODY loves them some Coach Eaux. You can learn that by reading this thread.