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re: After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !

Posted on 3/9/18 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 7:55 pm to
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the idiot vocal minority on this board.

Dude, you're either living in a bubble or you're trying to convince yourself that this is true.

Even if things aren't as bad as some believe, most are at least skeptical about the future of the program right now. And not without reason.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 7:56 pm to
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but seems like you are of the belief that O has everything he wants and needs now,


Assumption is the mother of all f**kups.

I just see how he is building quality AND depth on the lines. Hell LSU will not only have Rashard Lawrence back but will have two of him with Fehoko joining the lineup. He is Hiring what I think will be a very hgood if not great staff.

And sometimes I just like to converse with negative people who are habitually miserable. It's fun for me.

They make up shite about the future and cry and I point out how idiotic it is to do that.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 7:56 pm to
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Coach O is a used car salesman


Tell ‘em where to go, JoJo!
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:00 pm to
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What he means is that Os coaching style seems to be getting as money other coaches to figure everything out for him.

He doesn’t bring much Xs and Os wise to the table. Like at all.


Well he doesn't know shite then does he?

Someone does not coach for over 30 years, own four national championship rings and become the head coach of multiple Power 5 programs and not know X's and O's. That would be ridiculous.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108811 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:01 pm to
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And sometimes I just like to converse with negative people who are habitually miserable. It's fun for me. 

I love to converse about football as well. Especially with people who have differing opinions than me, I just don't get the part about being a dick all the time and all of the insults. Not everyone is going to have the same opinion. That's one of the things that makes talking sports fun. Usually at least.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:05 pm to
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The sunshine pumpers creed... could this be the best team in LSU history? But don’t expect too much that makes you entitled and spoiled. In their minds people like this can never lose.


Well if everyone made up stupid shite about the future and cried and constantly bashed the LSU head coach and program, this board would be pretty boring. Not everyone can cry 24 hours a day 7 days a week and be able to function in life. Some on this board are exceptionally good at it.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:08 pm to
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Someone does not coach for over 30 years, own four national championship rings and become the head coach of multiple Power 5 programs and not know X's and O's. That would be ridiculous.



He knows more about defensive lines than most people in the world. Don't think anyone has said otherwise.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:09 pm to
Tremendous defensive line coach, indeed. No kwerstion
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17749 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:20 pm to
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Well if everyone made up stupid shite about the future and cried and constantly bashed the LSU head coach and program, this board would be pretty boring. Not everyone can cry 24 hours a day 7 days a week and be able to function in life. Some on this board are exceptionally good at it.

The funny thing is, Madking defended most of your positions last year. Now, even his opinion has turned against O, and all you can do is insult him. He didn't just decide to change his mind out of thin air.

Can you name anyone that has actually been swayed to a pro-O stance by your propaganda?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:21 pm to
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Ok See. Answer this for me please. Do you think O should get blame for hiring Canada without vetting him properly and only having met him once? He obvioulsy hadn't stayed at any school for very long. I had my concerns about that going into last season.


Since the recommendation came from Aranda I can see why it happened. Eaux wanted Kiffin (I didn't and I am glad it didn't happen), Kiffin got a head coaching job at the last second after missing out on the Houston gig and others, recruits were getting very antsy with LSU not having an OC.

Aranda had coached against Canada and Eaux had asked the DC who he thought was the most difficult OC to gameplan against. Aranda had also bought Canada's house when he moved to Wisconsin from Utah State.

So with the recommendation, the offensive recruits and the timing I can definitely understand the hire. And with Canada being the only offensive Broyles Award candidate it fit with Eaux's stance that he would hire the best CO's.

As for the moving, that happens in coaching. I think one move was with the coach he was working for or at least a coach he had worked for in the past. I think that was North Carolina State. He was fired from NCSU but that could be from pressure from the HC's bosses. Like Les' make a change or leave type deal.

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I'm curious of your opinion on this one.


You got it. The 3rd and 4th paragraphs are my opinion.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79453 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:40 pm to
He spent 30 years as a DL coach
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:44 pm to
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You don't believe there are problematic possibilities


I don't believe in crying and being miserable about problematic possibilities.

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if Aranda is given/takes more responsibility than a typical assistant coach?


Since it would be Eaux giving the responsibility if this dumb hypothetical happened why would there be a problem?

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My quote only says it "opens up possibilities" related to Aranda being the one to control the gameplan, or something similar. And that can be a problem, whether you believe it or not.


All I've heard is how well Dave and Eaux get along. That it was Dave vs Canada or Dave & Eaux vs Canada. Your bullshite hypothetical is the first time I have seen someone try to miserable in advance of something that has a very very very slim chance of ever happening. It's a good cause though man, go for it. Don't wait for next decade, start being miserable about it right now.

Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:47 pm to
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After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !


Well, as the saying goes, there’s a sucker born every day.

O is as good at convincing some people he’s suddenly become a great coach as he is at selling cars. I’ll give him credit for that.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:50 pm to
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Most of all his failure to interview a single OC is a horrible look. I don’t care that he hired Steve but damn do your job and interview.


If he knew he was going to hire Steve wouldn't be a waste of his and other coaches' time to go through with the interviews. Not to mention the airfare and lodging expense.

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He could use the practice seeing how badly he flubbed the Canada hire


Well since Canada accepted the position I believe your premise is very flawed.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:50 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 7:24 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:56 pm to
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Great post.. I see 6-6 in the future...........IMO............


Thank God !!!

Aren't you the guy everybody make fun of because of your horrible predictions? Even when a team is already losing by 30 or more points. Once you post it's over or turn the lights out, etc the losing team always storms back and wins?

Apologies if I have you confused with another poster.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:00 pm to
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I don't believe in crying and being miserable about problematic possibilities.



Saying that there is a possibility is not crying and being miserable. Do you understand long term planning at all, and how to think about overall strategy of an intended end point?

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Since it would be Eaux giving the responsibility if this dumb hypothetical happened why would there be a problem?


You're ignoring the multiple people issues O had this year.

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All I've heard is how well Dave and Eaux get along. That it was Dave vs Canada or Dave & Eaux vs Canada. Your bullshite hypothetical is the first time I have seen someone try to miserable in advance of something that has a very very very slim chance of ever happening. It's a good cause though man, go for it. Don't wait for next decade, start being miserable about it right now.




Seeing as how the O/Canada affair was already a problem of egos, understanding what you are hiring and how it plays out in your locker room makes any kind of hypothetical around O's ego relevant.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108811 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:01 pm to
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If he knew he was going to hire Steve wouldn't be a waste of his and other coaches' time to go through with the interviews. Not to mention the airfare and lodging expense. 

I would have to disagree here. I think he has to actually go out and interview some of the current hot coordinators. What if he interviews someone that blows him away and decides that guy is better than Steve? Also, he can build relationships for future years. He obviously thinks he's going be here a while, which is the attitude he should have.
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Well since Canada accepted the position I believe your premise is very flawed.

Of course Canada accepted. But, why hire a coach that runs an offense based on motions, shifts and sweeps when you want to run a spread concept? Just makes no sense at all.
This post was edited on 3/9/18 at 9:03 pm
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31026 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:02 pm to
Hearing all the positives in this thread has convinced me we’ll be 11-1 at worst this season. I was too pessimistic at 10-2.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:07 pm to
I think winning the west should be the expectation given all the positives we are hearing. With bama and Georgia both being home games, no reason to think coach won't find a way to win those
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