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After reading of Arkys defensive scheme, Pelini lost to MSU
Posted by CharlesLSU
on 10/4/20 at 10:03 am
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27All he had to do was make a half time adjustment to zone heavy. That’s it. More guys in the backfield and Costellos options go away.
I know it’s a dead horse, but I’m concerned about his hardheadedness and adapting with what you have.
I know it’s a dead horse, but I’m concerned about his hardheadedness and adapting with what you have.
Posted by Elleshoe 
on 10/4/20 at 10:05 am to CharlesLSU
on 10/4/20 at 10:05 am to CharlesLSUOur corners couldn’t handle man assignments. You think they would have been more successful not fricking up a zone?
Posted by RummelTiger 
on 10/4/20 at 10:05 am to CharlesLSU
on 10/4/20 at 10:05 am to CharlesLSUI'm not going to pretend to know all about defensive schemes, but could he have not done that due to the lack of knowledge and depth in backfield at that time?
Honestly wondering...
Honestly wondering...
Posted by BayouCowboy on 10/4/20 at 10:08 am to CharlesLSU
on 10/4/20 at 10:08 am to CharlesLSUCostello completed 72% vs Arky, but they played a zone and kept everything in front and were able to break on throws and picked him 3 times. The RAC against us is what killed us. They had more RAC yards vs LSU than total passing yards vs Arkansas
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Our corners couldn’t handle man assignments. You think they would have been more successful not fricking up a zone?
The were just overmatched. A transfer from Nicholls and a hobbled Ward should not have been asked to chase guys around for 60 min.
Posted by Teufelhunden on 10/4/20 at 10:09 am to CharlesLSU
on 10/4/20 at 10:09 am to CharlesLSUHerbstreit made a comment in the Georgia game about arky's approach to MSU as a lot of zone after last week. That one was on O and Pelini for not adjusting
Posted by Oilfieldbiology on 10/4/20 at 10:13 am to CharlesLSU
on 10/4/20 at 10:13 am to CharlesLSUquote:
All he had to do was make a half time adjustment to zone heavy.
Half time adjustment? How do you not start in that? You had over 1 month to prepare for it
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Our corners couldn’t handle man assignments. You think they would have been more successful not fricking up a zone?
Zone would have been a lot to ask from a bunch of young guys who all had to shift positions the morning of game day. However, was it too much to ask to start backing off, dropping deeper and not playing up on the WRs the whole game? An adjustment like that still playing man could have at least limited the big plays. I think this is a more valid complaint.
That said, Pelini did adjust how we were playing up front last night and it worked. We shut down their run game in the second half, started getting pressure with just 4 and 5 and made their QB look like a true freshman.
This post was edited on 10/4 at 10:16 am
Posted by Good Times on 10/4/20 at 10:21 am to Teufelhunden
on 10/4/20 at 10:21 am to Teufelhundenquote:
That one was on O and Pelini for not adjusting
As previously stated, sometimes you don’t have enough to work with. Stingley would have made a difference. Not just in his coverage, but tallowing different players on the field. We WILL improve.
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Our corners couldn’t handle man assignments. You think they would have been more successful not fricking up a zone?
Jesus
Some of you think “zone” is as complex as the Saints/chiefs offense. It’s not surprising, most of you think you need a “running” QB to run the RPO.
Posted by memphis tiger on 10/4/20 at 10:23 am to Elleshoe
on 10/4/20 at 10:23 am to Elleshoequote:
Our corners couldn’t handle man assignments. You think they would have been more successful not fricking up a zone?
Well they couldn’t have done worse so Why not at least try to adjust?
Posted by Tiger_Style on 10/4/20 at 10:27 am to OKtiger
on 10/4/20 at 10:27 am to OKtigerZone requires communication and trust. Add in a bunch of young guys who have no experience playing with each other. It would have been worse.
This post was edited on 10/4 at 10:30 am
Posted by Ignignot 
on 10/4/20 at 10:28 am to CharlesLSU
on 10/4/20 at 10:28 am to CharlesLSUI agree somewhat. If you listened to Os segment on SECn b4 vandy game he said blatantly that coaches needed to make better halftime adjustments.
O WILL hold his assistants accountable, that is why we got 2019 bc he does so.
Also that first game after covid offseason was weird as frick.
Ull beating ISU, arky state beating KSU.
MSU beating us, im starting to think teams had a shite ton of cobwebs to work out.
O WILL hold his assistants accountable, that is why we got 2019 bc he does so.
Also that first game after covid offseason was weird as frick.
Ull beating ISU, arky state beating KSU.
MSU beating us, im starting to think teams had a shite ton of cobwebs to work out.
Posted by BayouBlitz on 10/4/20 at 10:30 am to Elleshoe
on 10/4/20 at 10:30 am to Elleshoequote:
Our corners couldn’t handle man assignments. You think they would have been more successful not fricking up a zone?
What's the worst that could have happened? Giving up 625 yards passing...oh wait.
Of course our secondary was depleted. But he had 6 weeks to prepare. And infinite video to look at.
Pelini shite the bed. Period.
And through two games, this is one of the worst tackling defenses I've seen at LSU in decades.
Time for Pelini to man up.
Posted by Tigerstark on 10/4/20 at 10:30 am to CharlesLSU
on 10/4/20 at 10:30 am to CharlesLSUThe real question is why we didn't have it prepared ahead of time. There was plenty of time to install enough zone principals.
In the broadcast last night, they said the LSU coaches claimed there wasn't film on MSU. BS, its the same offense for twenty something years. With lots of film of teams having success against it.
Pelini has always struggled with it. Every single time. He either doesn't know how or isn't capable of setting up the defense in the way that lots of others have.
In the broadcast last night, they said the LSU coaches claimed there wasn't film on MSU. BS, its the same offense for twenty something years. With lots of film of teams having success against it.
Pelini has always struggled with it. Every single time. He either doesn't know how or isn't capable of setting up the defense in the way that lots of others have.
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Some of you think “zone” is as complex as the Saints/chiefs offense. It’s not surprising, most of you think you need a “running” QB to run the RPO.
Zone is extraordinarily complex for young players who have not practiced much and have never run it. And for those that claimed "it couldn't have gotten worse"....yes it could. At least we forced them to make a few tight passes into good coverage. Credit their QB, he made them. Yes there were many times their receivers were running open, but against an ill-prepared zone they would have been wide open every play.
Posted by phi1514 on 10/4/20 at 10:33 am to Tigerstark
on 10/4/20 at 10:33 am to TigerstarkBetter question is why they spent the offseason developing a defensive strategy that revolved around man coverage, when Chris Peterson/Washington had shown the blueprint for how to beat Leach’s offense....which was playing two deep zone. Why?!?!
Posted by Geauxgurt on 10/4/20 at 10:40 am to CharlesLSU
Unless you practice zone a lot, it usually fails. Especially when most of the LSU corners are man corners.
It’s not as simple as some make it out to be.
It’s not as simple as some make it out to be.
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