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re: Adjusted qb stats (to account for drops)

Posted on 4/24/22 at 2:23 am to
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
20716 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 2:23 am to
Ok. I’m reading through this thread. This is beyond stupid.

Hey, let’s look at misses and make it to where each basketball shot that missed, is actually counted as a make because it was an easy shot, so it should have went in.

Hey, let’s count each strike out as a hit, cause it looked like an easy pitch to hit. Should have been a hit.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47454 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 6:18 am to
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Hey, let’s look at misses and make it to where each basketball shot that missed, is actually counted as a make because it was an easy shot, so it should have went in.

You miss the point. A dropped pass, for a QB, is like a made shot in basketball in which the scorer forgot to record it. The OP is right in his method. If a QB throws a great pass and hits a WR in the hands who drops it, the QB should be evaluated as successful; the TEAM should be evaluated as unsuccessful.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
36480 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:04 am to
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Also it seems like Brennan had the worst offensive plays out of all 4 QBs when it comes to being able to showcase arm talent.
He took less chances. Higher completion rate, more ball protection. Same plays, different decisions.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36640 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:40 am to
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You miss the point. A dropped pass, for a QB, is like a made shot in basketball in which the scorer forgot to record it. The OP is right in his method. If a QB throws a great pass and hits a WR in the hands who drops it, the QB should be evaluated as successful; the TEAM should be evaluated as unsuccessful.
But that isn't what the OP did. We all watched the same game. Daniels threw behind, over, and into the dirt. Even the acrobatic one handed catch was a bad underthrow.
Posted by GeauxJZK
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
1641 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:41 am to
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Ok. I’m reading through this thread. This is beyond stupid. Hey, let’s look at misses and make it to where each basketball shot that missed, is actually counted as a make because it was an easy shot, so it should have went in. Hey, let’s count each strike out as a hit, cause it looked like an easy pitch to hit. Should have been a hit.


Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t make it stupid.

He’s not changing live game stats. He’s adjusting numbers to show good throws to bad throws because that is how the coaching staff evaluates practice film.

If one of the QBs does everything right on a play but it gets dropped, why would the coaching staff count that against them when evaluating who should be the starter?
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:49 am to
So you “adjusted” stats and ignored drops with zero consideration as to why the drops occurred or any definition of what constitutes said “drops”? Alright.
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 7:51 am
Posted by Mattgobear
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3222 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:06 am to
It's McDonnell
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47454 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:09 am to
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But that isn't what the OP did. We all watched the same game. Daniels threw behind, over, and into the dirt. Even the acrobatic one handed catch was a bad underthrow.

I don’t know what the OP did, but I know what he said he did, which was to add the completions to the ones that would have been completions, for every QB, then divide by their attempts. In that case, the poor passes that were incomplete would count against the QBs. That seems like a fair method of partial evaluation. It doesn’t take a lot of things into consideration, like did the QB quickly make the right read, call the right play, move properly in the pocket, etc.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36640 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:20 am to
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I don’t know what the OP did, but I know what he said he did,
Which is a lie. The OP would have you believe that all but 2 of Daniels' throws were on the money.

The coach stopped the game to help one of the QB's who was having trouble passing. That was Daniels.
Posted by MidLineVeer
Southwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
665 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:25 am to
This is what I came up with if Daniels got all the snaps and took out the drops and the INT, he is a athletic QB so he probably would avoid any INTs.

Daniels 37/49, 6 touchdowns 425
yards, 1 rushing touchdown
Nuss 0/0 0 touchdown 0 yards INT
Howard 0/0 0 touchdown 0 yards
Brennan 0/0 yards 0 touchdown

It’s pretty obvious to me he should start. And our defenses sucks.

Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
29414 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:27 am to
It seems clear as a bell we should start Daniels
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9327 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:36 am to
any interceptions on any throw occur while a sack was in progress? I recall seeing at least one.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
70727 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:40 am to
LSU fans have had to do this for years with the qbs.
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16646 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:46 am to
Nice work. Good Luck surviving the mental midgets on this site picking it apart and attacking you for it.
Posted by slowmoe
Member since Mar 2022
600 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:47 am to
Stop trying to make Daniel's look like a legit QB. He is not SEC talent.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:50 am to
By definition a drop is on the receiver.
Posted by lsufan0582
337 born
Member since Jan 2022
2335 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 9:23 am to
To help us get an idea of how many passes were hitting receivers in the hands
I see a ton of people on this board claiming Daniels was just purely inaccurate, which is untrue because 4 of his wide open passes were well placed but dropped
I don't really care who the starter is, but claiming Daniels was just pounding the ball into the dirt while 7 of his 9 passes were truly accurate, is unfair.
(I'm a Brennan fan)
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6242 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 9:29 am to
Toot toot
Posted by Chinese Bandit Boy
Member since Jun 2021
717 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 9:30 am to
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Also, they ran more screens with Myles than anyone else I think


All the crossing routes were with Myles. That's the bread and butter in a game. Myles nailed them. The long routes were focused on the blocking. The coaches were seeing if the blocking technique and if the blocking could hold up while the route developed. My 2 cents, Myles is your quarterback with Garrett ready if needed but waiting his turn next year with another year of coaching under his belt.
Posted by HotTakes
Member since Sep 2021
1498 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 9:35 am to
Definitely not the same plays… Idk what you were watching. More screens and slants for Myles than the others.
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