re: A Sober Assessment of CPM's Future as HC of LSU Baseball (long)

It doesn't matter to me why Gio and Travinski weren't in. That was minor in comparison to how the pitching was handled. Were Hellmers and Edwards also punished?

Explain on what planet subbing Doughty for Milazzo makes any sense other than just conceding the game.

And, also explain to me how throwing Hasty and Fowler instead of Hellmers, Edwards, or Hilliard is trying to win.

If you're not trying to win, what are you doing?

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Even then, the last person that should be batting is Doughty in that situation. shite I would rather Bianco than Doughty. At least let Travinski pinch hit then let Doughty catch or even better let Drost pinch hit before turning the lineup over.

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All the players sitting on the bench in the 7th down 4 with a runner on first to pinch hit and our best option was our bullpen catcher? I don’t believe it.

2009 - LSU
2010 - South Carolina
2011 - South Carolina
2012 - Arizona
2013 - UCLA
2014 - Vandy
2015 - Virginia
2016 - Coastal Carolina
2017 - Florida
2018 - Oregon State
2019 - Vandy

That's the CWS champs. South Carolina repeated in 10/11. From 12-18 there were 7 different champs in 7 seasons. Once Skip got rolling at LSU, there was never that many different champions in 7 seasons.

This board suffers from 1) Seeing what Skip did in a different time, and 2) Seeing what Saban is doing in the same time, but in a different sport.

No one is winning baseball champs at a clip like Skip did, ever again.

Paul is 63 but has been a HC for a long, long time. Even in the best of situations, I think he's got 2-3 more years left.

What makes Saban the GOAT is that he has been able to change as the game has changed. Paul has not. He still coaches like it was 10-15 years ago, despite players needing to be coddled, despite more HCs taking more active positions in coaching (coaching hitting or pitching or baserunning, not managing like he's in MLB), etc.

Expecting Omaha every season or every other season is no longer, I think, a reasonable expectation for any college program. Expecting a coach to evolve, or move on, though, is a reasonable expectation.

He needs to finish the season. Then no matter how this season ends, I think he needs a long discussion with Woodward, his assistant coaches, etc, about his future role as a coach. If he's not willing to do things differently, and he may not want to, then I think it's time he gives up the program.

John Cohen was a manager type coach. He's now an AD. Tannehill was a manager type coach. He's now an AD. I'm not in any way saying CPM should be an AD... but given the coaching limits, and given how many teams care more about college baseball these days... the MLB manager model doesn't work anymore.

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Explain on what planet subbing Doughty for Milazzo makes any sense other than just conceding the game.

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I feel it's not very often that Milazzo finishes games. Maybe he's tired maybe he was hurt. Who knows.

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And, also explain to me how throwing Hasty and Fowler instead of Hellmers, Edwards, or Hilliard is trying to win.

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Lord and Savior Skip did things like this ALL THE TIME. You do it to see how guys will respond. You know what you have with Hellmers and Hilliard and Edwards.

I think the issue is, CPM is handling pitching as if we are 8-3 in this game, not 3-8.

You are always trying to win. You also sometimes decide to give guys experience to see how they respond.

If we are 8-3, I don't think most of these comments are made. We aren't though... and that's the problem.

He's stale and complacent.He's comfortable making his $1.25 million a year not winning anything. He's been there nearly as long as Skip. Its time for a change. He needs to bow out gracefully and if he doesn't, fire his arse. Its time for new blood.

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shite I would rather Bianco than Doughty.

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No you wouldn't lol

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At least let Travinski pinch hit then let Doughty catch or even better let Drost pinch hit before turning the lineup over.

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Travinski had the day off. Jesus.

Now, should he have PH someone else, then bring in Doughty to catch? That's a more reasonable question.

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Travinski had the day off. Jesus.

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He can't have one at bat?

That's weak. If you're putting guys in to see how they respond, then you're not trying to win. You're giving yourself a better chance to lose. If you know how Hellmers, Edwards, and Hilliard will respond...and you expect a good response...you put them in to give yourself a better chance to win. No way I'm going to continuing arguing about Doughty for Milazzo and sitting on Hellmers and Edwards - there is no good reason unless it was injury or disciplinary.

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