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Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:34 pm to
Miles gets fiery when he needs to, not often. See the "have a great day" speech. It takes quite a bit to get under his skin. I see nothing wrong with how he reacted.
Posted by BRAVEHEART
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:34 pm to
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He sounded like a bumbling idiot who was obviously flustered. I'm sorry if you can't see that. He looked retarded and it was embarrassing.
You're asking for the impossible. The Pumper Boys are incapable of saying ANYTHING negative about ANY aspect of LSU Athletics, even if it's entirely warranted in doing so. That being said, some sports reporters are total a-holes that have most likely never worn a jock at any level.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:55 pm to
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the reason I don't like what Miles did is because it isn't in his character. He's a better man than what he displayed in his press conference. I'd bet he's probably disappointed that he let it get to him.


It's really not that big of a deal. But let's keep it real, you don't want Les Miles as the head coach no matter what. You are not going to be happy unless Saban is the coach. He is Daddy to you.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:19 pm to
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the reason I don't like what Miles did is because it isn't in his character

On the other hand, when someone with a normally calm demeanor goes all Mike Gundy on the reporters, it carries a lot more weight than someone like Saban or Muschamp, who lose their minds like that on a regular basis.
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11430 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:32 pm to
Not gonna read the whole thread, but my thoughts exactly. If Miles wins 10 or 11 games and goes to a decent bowl, this is by far his finest coaching job.

Losses:
3/5 of the OL including 2 guys who were considered first day draft picks

Starting RB

Heisman trophy finalist DB and most dynamic defender

2/3 of the LB corps, at one point all 3 in one game against a top ten team on the road

The Alabama game sucked but if he pulls 11 wins out of this mess people should recognize
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
30274 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:34 pm to
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But let's keep it real, you don't want Les Miles as the head coach no matter what. You are not going to be happy unless Saban is the coach. He is Daddy to you.

I've already stated I prefer a coach with Miles' normal demeanor. I appreciate his calm presence on the sideline and I think it is great for the team to see a strong coach that isn't easily flustered.

Get your trolling outta here.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:44 pm to
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already stated I prefer a coach with Miles' normal demeanor


That does not mean you are a fan of Coach Miles. It doesn't mean you want him to be the LSU football coach. I've read enough of your posts over the years to know. But you don't have to be a fan of Miles. Just don't ever pretend that it has something to do with the results because the results are there.

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Get your trolling outta here


Go frick yourself
Posted by StadiumDormRat'72
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:45 pm to
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I never brought Saban into this?


Oh, but he's ALWAYS in this....


(like "but you've always been the caretaker" in The Shining.)
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:46 pm to
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Go frick yourself


ROCKET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
30274 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:07 pm to
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That does not mean you are a fan of Coach Miles. It doesn't mean you want him to be the LSU football coach. I've read enough of your posts over the years to know. But you don't have to be a fan of Miles. Just don't ever pretend that it has something to do with the results because the results are there.


Just because I don't think Miles is infallible does not mean I'm not a fan. I'm glad he's our coach, because he's the best one we could have. When the opportunity comes along that a better coach would want to be at LSU, I'd be in favor of hiring. I don't see that happening any time soon. But, I'm an LSU fan first.

That doesn't mean I put blinders on and suck off anyone that wears LSU on their sleeve. That means I want what's best for LSU. Right now, that's Les Miles.

Does that mean he doesn't make boneheaded decisions? No. He made stupid calls that, you can argue, lead to Bama beating us. He's done great things at LSU. That doesn't mean I can't criticize him when he makes a mistake.
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Go frick yourself
Posted by Bandits
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:20 pm to
CLM is a great coach. Thanks for noticing.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:59 pm to
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Just because I don't think Miles is infallible does not mean I'm not a fan


At no point in time on this board have you lead anyone on to believe you are a fan.

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I'm glad he's our coach, because he's the best one we could have. When the opportunity comes along that a better coach would want to be at LSU, I'd be in favor of hiring. I don't see that happening any time soon. But, I'm an LSU fan first.


Blah blah

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That doesn't mean I put blinders on and suck off anyone that wears LSU on their sleeve


Nobody is saying you have to suck anyone off. You don't have to be a fan, like I said earlier. Just don't pretend that you not being a fan has something to do with the results.

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Right now, that's Les Miles


Child please

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Does that mean he doesn't make boneheaded decisions? No. He made stupid calls that, you can argue, lead to Bama beating us. He's done great things at LSU. That doesn't mean I can't criticize him when he makes a mistake


It's apparent that after 80+ wins at LSU, you still aren't a fan of the guy. That's fine. Let's not be so disingenous that your lack of satisfaction with him has something to do with the results. Saban could post the same results and you'd be perfectly content.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:11 pm to
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"As the head coach, it is my responsibility to get the best out of each player. If you feel that hasn't happened, then you should be questioning my coaching."

Slackhouse is such a great coach and evaluator, he could have 80 players starting.
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Slackhouse sounded like a bumbling idiot who was obviously flustered. I'm sorry if you can't see that. He posted retarded and it was embarrassing.

Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
30274 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:15 pm to
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Saban could post the same results and you'd be perfectly content
again with the Saban horse crap, eh? I never brought Saban into this conversation. But since you did, I'll list my criticisms of Saban.

While at LSU, he was extremely conservative. The UF loss in 2003 was extremely disappointing and was Saban's fault. We had a conservative gameplan on offense and his vaunted defense couldn't stop a freshman Chris Leak.

Outside of Corey Webster, Saban's dbs have been extremely overrated. When team's take shots downfield, they are rarely unsuccessful. Matt Jones and the play against Iowa come to mind.

See, I can be critical of the 2 best coaches we've ever had.
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At no point in time on this board have you lead anyone on to believe you are a fan
I'm a fan of LSU, then Les Miles. The first leads to me being critical of Miles. It apparently leads you to turn a blind eye to any mistakes he makes or faults he has.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:54 pm to
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so, are you blaming Chavis, or giving him credit for dominating Bama in the 2nd half?



Trying to explain that considering all things, there was no major flaw in how LSU handled their second to last offensive series as you implied.



Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213422 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:59 pm to
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rying to explain that considering all things, there was no major flaw in how LSU handled their second to last offensive series as you implied.



Let me tell ya somethin. IF Copeland DOESN'T make that STUPID PF at the 10 yardline, The game is TOTALLY DIFFERENT. FACTS ARE FACTS. I HATE calling out players but its right there.
Posted by FemaleTiger
neverneverland
Member since Jul 2008
830 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:09 pm to
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IMO, it was unneeded, unprofessional, and embarrassing.


You are in the minority. I loved it!
Posted by lurkr
Member since Jan 2008
12378 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:21 pm to
The players, recruits, and recruits families loved it. As he said in his rant, people outside of these walls have no Idea and no bearing on them.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10709 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:32 pm to
I think most of your views are realistic and on the money. The only point where we part is your feeling that Miles was an embarrassment in his press conference. I feel he was passionate and genuine in the defense of his players and his quirkiness is ever present and appreciated. He is a happy and unique individual who represents LSU in the best and most interesting light. His press conference had about 300,000 views as of yesterday afternoon- I just now checked and it's over 730,000 views. People love Les in spite of and because of his weird, wonderful ways.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 7:06 pm to
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again with the Saban horse crap, eh


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never brought Saban into this conversation.


I don't care. Miles has been compared to Saban since the day he took the podium to announce he was accepting the job. And he will always be and there are fans, including you, who dislike Miles for no other reason than he's different than Saban.

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While at LSU, he was extremely conservative. The UF loss in 2003 was extremely disappointing and was Saban's fault. We had a conservative gameplan on offense and his vaunted defense couldn't stop a freshman Chris Leak. Outside of Corey Webster, Saban's dbs have been extremely overrated. When team's take shots downfield, they are rarely unsuccessful. Matt Jones and the play against Iowa come to mind. See, I can be critical of the 2 best coaches we've ever had.


Save it for some lame-brain bandwagon fan who just joined the site a month ago. I've been here too long to believe any bullshite from you.

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The first leads to me being critical of Miles. It apparently leads you to turn a blind eye to any mistakes he makes or faults he has.


Incorrect, as usual. I know you are not a fan of Miles and have never been. That's what I know. And I know it has nothing to do with the results. It's because he's different than Saban and some people have never forgiven him for that.

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