re: A Note on Cam Cameron

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Most of what we are seeing on the field is a product of being in the position of having to start players who are not ready (Harris and Jennings)

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This is true but Jennings wasn't the disaster that Harris was and we did run off two capable QB's. Heck, I would give Kragthorpe a go if need be.

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and the OL missing a ton of assignments (difficulties learning the new zone blocking schemes)

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Our o-line is experienced and known quantities. I am sure they have seen a few different blocking schemes before. If they haven't learned any new wrinkles by now then the coaching staff can't coach or the coaching staff overestimated the capabilities of their personnel. Both are on the coaches.

Honestly, I see some of the same issues that I have seen for years under Miles. RB's, FB's, and TE's are shuffled in and out on different plays. Certain players run certain plays and I am sure that our opponents have figured this out. Plays come in late and there is always a confused look on everyone's face. The RB's look over to the sideline after every play to see if they will be staying in or getting pulled.

I keep going back to the first play of the season. After LF returns the kickoff he looks to the sideline for several seconds to see if he is staying on the field or coming out. If the players don't know who is starting on the first offensive play of the game before the game starts there is a serious communication / planning issue.

That was because the OL had to block the entire State team who were expecting the run with a 255 lb just waiting to stuff it. State just spreads out their line and they walk in for the score through the gaps. The OL is fine if you spread it out and have 5 or six scoring options rather than one.

"I do realize that, but me and you both know that you would take Cam Cameron as your OC over Gary "The Wizard" Crowton, if given the choice. "

In my heart yes. But if I look at productivity, our '07 O was better than last year's O (and arguably with lesser talent) and ''08 was better than '14 has shown thus far.

IMO, CCC is forced to operate under greater constraints than did CGC in '07 and '08.

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I honestly think Oline execution, not development or talent is our biggest problem on offense. IF they could get going then the run game would improve and the Young QBs would have more time in the pocket.

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Ok genius, you figure out a way to block 8-9 guys with 5 and get back to me....it ain't the frickin line, it's the scheme...

A good offensive line will manage to punch in a 1st and goal at the 2 yard line. If you can't get 1 yard per play you suck and we only need half of that!

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My question is if neither one of these QB's are ready, why did they run their two more experienced QB's off? I understand that Rivers hasn't done well at Vanderbilt but what about Rettig? Was he terrible too? Something isn't making sense to me

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R & R couldn't run fast enough for Bo.......sorry, we mean Les.

So our offense sucks with the best OL talent since 2003 because our coach decides to make it impossible to succeed? But I can't be mad at the coach for that?

Most logical fans knew our QB wouldn't be great this year no matter who started. I said 3 losses with 10-2 as our ceiling IF all the pieces came together. But now we are looking at 7-8 wins as a ceiling. What changed?

We knew the QB and WR areas were talented but young. So far they have underperformed as a whole given the talent level we have played. The RB and OL were supposed to carry us and that's been a nightmare. New coach decided to change everything we knew apparently and Miles was ok with that?? Not ok with me.

The defense sucked last year and we had juniors leave early. I didn't expect us to improve by much given the fact that our DL couldn't penetrate a Vegas hooker. I thought the rest of the D would step up and they have some but not enough to get off the field.

The thing that change the most is the teams we play. They all got better. They all innovated and upgraded. They play to their strengths. And they laugh when they see our film. Because we are the only SEC west team who can't figure out how to play above our talent level. Down years can happen but not overnight. Miles needs to turn it around fast because there will be no excuse next fall.

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it's a myth that high school spread QBs can't play in a pro style offense

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In year 1 and 2?? But great myth bust there with nothing to back it up.

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We ran great on first and second downs, Cam called easy pass plays on 3rd downs and bottom line Harris could not execute. To put the blame on the O line is just not accurate assessment.Harris had plenty of time to throw, and either chose to scramble when he didn't need to, or stood in the pocket and threw a bad pass. We have problems all over the place, but last Saturday O line was not the issue!

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I agree with this. it was trail by fire though. harris needs more reps. he's got the talent. needs to have bad habits coached out of him.

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Formations and play calling are putting undue pressure on the O line.

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I think blocking 8-9 people in the bock with 7-8 blockers (line + fullback + 1-2 TE) isn't hard if you hit your assignment, but they aren't hitting their assignment.

They simply aren't blocking at all.